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[Bug 1194264] Switching from pulseaudio to pipewire produces unusually large solution
by bugzilla_noreply＠suse.com 01 Feb '22

01 Feb '22

https://bugzilla.suse.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1194264 https://bugzilla.suse.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1194264#c20 --- Comment #20 from Jan Engelhardt <jengelh(a)inai.de> --- Since you want the obsoletion only to apply to existing MicroOS systems, maybe rpm supports something along the lines of this��?: Obsoletes: (pulseaudio if patterns-MicroOS) -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.

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[Bug 1194264] Switching from pulseaudio to pipewire produces unusually large solution
by bugzilla_noreply＠suse.com 01 Feb '22

01 Feb '22

https://bugzilla.suse.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1194264 https://bugzilla.suse.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1194264#c19 --- Comment #19 from Richard Brown <rbrown(a)suse.com> --- (In reply to Michael Schr�der from comment #17) > So this is not an issue and you should simply add a conflict instead of the > obsoletes? But then we still get the conflicts message which requires user interaction, no? And MicroOS is an operating system where its intended that package updates only happen with no user interaction. Maybe I missed something here, but isn't that the crux of the whole bug report? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.

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[Bug 1194264] Switching from pulseaudio to pipewire produces unusually large solution
by bugzilla_noreply＠suse.com 01 Feb '22

01 Feb '22

https://bugzilla.suse.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1194264 https://bugzilla.suse.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1194264#c18 --- Comment #18 from Fabian Vogt <fvogt(a)suse.com> --- (In reply to Michael Schr�der from comment #15) > Sorry, you can't. The design is that 'zypper up' never removes installed > packages. > > What works is a 'zypper dup' if pulseaudio is no longer in the repo and > something conflicts with pulseaudio. pulseaudio still has to be in the repos as it's used by Tumbleweed. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.

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[Bug 1194264] Switching from pulseaudio to pipewire produces unusually large solution
by bugzilla_noreply＠suse.com 01 Feb '22

01 Feb '22

https://bugzilla.suse.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1194264 https://bugzilla.suse.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1194264#c17 --- Comment #17 from Michael Schr�der <mls(a)suse.com> --- So this is not an issue and you should simply add a conflict instead of the obsoletes? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.

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[Bug 1194264] Switching from pulseaudio to pipewire produces unusually large solution
by bugzilla_noreply＠suse.com 01 Feb '22

01 Feb '22

https://bugzilla.suse.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1194264 https://bugzilla.suse.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1194264#c16 --- Comment #16 from Richard Brown <rbrown(a)suse.com> --- (In reply to Michael Schr�der from comment #15) > Sorry, you can't. The design is that 'zypper up' never removes installed > packages. > > What works is a 'zypper dup' if pulseaudio is no longer in the repo and > something conflicts with pulseaudio. But MicroOS ONLY does 'dup'..so...? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.

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[Bug 1194264] Switching from pulseaudio to pipewire produces unusually large solution
by bugzilla_noreply＠suse.com 01 Feb '22

01 Feb '22

https://bugzilla.suse.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1194264 https://bugzilla.suse.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1194264#c15 --- Comment #15 from Michael Schr�der <mls(a)suse.com> --- Sorry, you can't. The design is that 'zypper up' never removes installed packages. What works is a 'zypper dup' if pulseaudio is no longer in the repo and something conflicts with pulseaudio. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.

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[Bug 1194264] Switching from pulseaudio to pipewire produces unusually large solution
by bugzilla_noreply＠suse.com 01 Feb '22

01 Feb '22

https://bugzilla.suse.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1194264 https://bugzilla.suse.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1194264#c14 --- Comment #14 from Fabian Vogt <fvogt(a)suse.com> --- (In reply to Michael Schr�der from comment #13) > That's a very bad goal. A pattern should never remove packages. Prompting > for a confirmation is exactly what should be done. > > The solver design is that packages must never be removed on installation > except if they are completely replaced by a different package (i.e. > obsoleted). That's what users expect, do not break this. MicroOS is different in that regard. It switched from pulseaudio to pipewire and updates are installed automatically in the background and must be unattended. If MicroOS had a different repo than TW, we'd just add the required obsoletes to the pipewire-pulseaudio package, but that's not the case and they have to coexist. Other than the Obsoletes, the only way to avoid this is to do the usual Requires: (pulseaudio or pipewire-pulseaudio) + Suggests: pipewire-pulseaudio. That way only new installs get pipewire, but that's against the design of MicroOS. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.

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[Bug 1194264] Switching from pulseaudio to pipewire produces unusually large solution
by bugzilla_noreply＠suse.com 01 Feb '22

01 Feb '22

https://bugzilla.suse.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1194264 https://bugzilla.suse.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1194264#c13 --- Comment #13 from Michael Schr�der <mls(a)suse.com> --- That's a very bad goal. A pattern should never remove packages. Prompting for a confirmation is exactly what should be done. The solver design is that packages must never be removed on installation except if they are completely replaced by a different package (i.e. obsoleted). That's what users expect, do not break this. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.

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[Bug 1194264] Switching from pulseaudio to pipewire produces unusually large solution
by bugzilla_noreply＠suse.com 01 Feb '22

01 Feb '22

https://bugzilla.suse.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1194264 https://bugzilla.suse.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1194264#c12 Fabian Vogt <fvogt(a)suse.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |CONFIRMED CC| |dfaggioli(a)suse.com, | |fvogt(a)suse.com, ma(a)suse.com Assignee|rbrown(a)suse.com |kubic-bugs(a)opensuse.org Flags| |needinfo?(ma(a)suse.com) --- Comment #12 from Fabian Vogt <fvogt(a)suse.com> --- What should the pattern do instead? The goal is that systems which still have the old pattern and thus the various pulseaudio packages installed can run "zypper dup" and get pipewire without being prompted for a solution for the conflict between the new pattern and the already installed pulseaudio. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.

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