Re: Fwd: [opensuse-kde] Kile in openSUSE 11.2
On Samstag 25 Juli 2009, Stephan Binner wrote:
Can please you comment on the stability of the Kile/KDE4 port? Would it be an absolute insane idea to ship a current snapshot in openSUSE 11.2? :-)
Hi, well we got asked a few months ago the same question by the ubuntu devs. And we agreed that it is okay to ship a svn snapshot. But, from my POV, this turned out not too well. The main things to check are: - The user has to know that this is beta software (already fixed, upstream thing) - The version number of kile must be so that we as devs know what the users uses (already fixed, upstream thing) - all upstream bugs showing up should, as usual, be reported to bugs.kde.org. (worked quite well) - users will more likely encounter bugs and don't know how to get a more up to date version. So what would be your idea for the last point? Can opensuse Factory provide binaries for the final version of kile once it is available?
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Subject: [opensuse-kde] Kile in openSUSE 11.2 Date: Friday 24 July 2009 From: Christian Trippe <trippe_mailinglisten@gmx.de> To: opensuse-kde@opensuse.org
Hi,
this email is about the question if Kile should be updated to the KDE4 version for 11.2 although it has only a beta release at the moment.
The KDE3 version which is in Factory at the moment is in my opinion somehow broken as all the default file viewers (kdiv, kpdf, kghostview) are already dropped from factory as far as I see and one has to configure kile manually to use okular.
Well the tools are the least problem. I could provide a patch for that. And from my own experience kile 2.0.3 is really stable.
Also there is at least one more or less critical bug in the KDE3 version which will not get fixed: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=189126
Although this bug is really scarry, it was only encountered once in the KDE3 versions of kile. So I think this bug would be no showstopper.
I have used the KDE4 version regularly over the last months and find it ready to use. And there is https://features.opensuse.org/306844 which would only be useful for the KDE4 version, as far as I understand.
The on-the-fly spellchecking is really a nice feature and is currently incorporated into KDE 4.4 trunk. So I would be okay with a beta version of kile in opensuse 11.2 as we don't have scary bugs open. If you do that I would kindly request a few things: - Don't exchange the scary "kile beta" splashscreen. This is on purpose. - Tell us the last date where you can accept updates for your kile packages. Maybe we can have a beta2/rc1 at this date. - Can you post the source code patches you add to kile somewhere? Usually distros fix a few things but also don't tell upstream ;) regards, Thomas -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
On Saturday 25 of July 2009, Thomas Braun wrote:
So I would be okay with a beta version of kile in opensuse 11.2 as we don't have scary bugs open.
I have moved it from KDE:KDE4:Playground to KDE:KDE4:Factory:Desktop and submitted for Factory.
If you do that I would kindly request a few things: - Don't exchange the scary "kile beta" splashscreen. This is on purpose. - Tell us the last date where you can accept updates for your kile packages. Maybe we can have a beta2/rc1 at this date.
According to http://en.opensuse.org/Roadmap/11.2, either Aug 06 or Aug 20, depending on the exact interpretation of the Milestone 6 goals.
- Can you post the source code patches you add to kile somewhere? Usually distros fix a few things but also don't tell upstream ;)
https://build.opensuse.org/package/show?package=kile&project=openSUSE%3AFactory has the package shipped with openSUSE Factory, right now it's the KDE3 version until the KDE4 version request gets accepted. The devel project for the KDE4 version is https://build.opensuse.org/package/show?package=kile&project=KDE%3AKDE4%3AFactory%3ADesktop . -- Lubos Lunak KDE developer -------------------------------------------------------------- SUSE LINUX, s.r.o. e-mail: l.lunak@suse.cz , l.lunak@kde.org Lihovarska 1060/12 tel: +420 284 084 672 190 00 Prague 9 fax: +420 284 028 951 Czech Republic http://www.suse.cz -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
On Tuesday 28 of July 2009, Lubos Lunak wrote:
On Saturday 25 of July 2009, Thomas Braun wrote:
So I would be okay with a beta version of kile in opensuse 11.2 as we don't have scary bugs open.
I have moved it from KDE:KDE4:Playground to KDE:KDE4:Factory:Desktop and submitted for Factory.
s/moved/copied/ . I see it builds there also for older KDE setups, so I've left it there too. But whoever feels reponsible for that, feel free to remove it from there if you want. -- Lubos Lunak KDE developer -------------------------------------------------------------- SUSE LINUX, s.r.o. e-mail: l.lunak@suse.cz , l.lunak@kde.org Lihovarska 1060/12 tel: +420 284 084 672 190 00 Prague 9 fax: +420 284 028 951 Czech Republic http://www.suse.cz -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
On Dienstag 28 Juli 2009, Lubos Lunak wrote:
- Can you post the source code patches you add to kile somewhere? Usually distros fix a few things but also don't tell upstream ;)
https://build.opensuse.org/package/show?package=kile&project=openSUSE%3AFac tory has the package shipped with openSUSE Factory, right now it's the KDE3 version until the KDE4 version request gets accepted. The devel project for the KDE4 version is https://build.opensuse.org/package/show?package=kile&project=KDE%3AKDE4%3AF actory%3ADesktop .
I had a look at both pages. Am I right that kile-trunk-r996817.tar.bz2 is just the svn checkout without any patches? One thing I noticed is that the rpm packages are still named kile-2.0.81.svn996817-1.3.src.rpm but we already raised the version to 2.0.82 (can be parsed from kileversion.h). bye, thomas -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
On Saturday 08 of August 2009, Thomas Braun wrote:
On Dienstag 28 Juli 2009, Lubos Lunak wrote:
- Can you post the source code patches you add to kile somewhere? Usually distros fix a few things but also don't tell upstream ;)
https://build.opensuse.org/package/show?package=kile&project=openSUSE%3AF ac tory has the package shipped with openSUSE Factory, right now it's the KDE3 version until the KDE4 version request gets accepted. The devel project for the KDE4 version is https://build.opensuse.org/package/show?package=kile&project=KDE%3AKDE4%3 AF actory%3ADesktop .
I had a look at both pages. Am I right that kile-trunk-r996817.tar.bz2 is just the svn checkout without any patches?
Yes. We add patches, if any, separately to the package, we try not to modify tarballs.
One thing I noticed is that the rpm packages are still named kile-2.0.81.svn996817-1.3.src.rpm but we already raised the version to 2.0.82 (can be parsed from kileversion.h).
Looks like a mistake when updating. -- Lubos Lunak KDE developer -------------------------------------------------------------- SUSE LINUX, s.r.o. e-mail: l.lunak@suse.cz , l.lunak@kde.org Lihovarska 1060/12 tel: +420 284 084 672 190 00 Prague 9 fax: +420 284 028 951 Czech Republic http://www.suse.cz -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
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