On 26 October 2012 19:41, Sven Burmeister
Am Freitag, 26. Oktober 2012, 18:56:17 schrieb Cristian Morales Vega:
Naturally full-featured Apper is available in the installation, including the upstream Systemsettings KCM. But that doesn't change the fact that the only reason Apper is included in the default install, is because opensuseupdater was dropped, and a new updater applet was needed.
You make it look like if there was something that actually *forced* us to drop kupdateapplet.
I have to go and I didn't test it. But FWIW, you have the old kupdateapplet with ZYpp support (meaning without packagekit) in home:RedDwarf build for openSUSE 12.2. Not exactly difficult...
I remember the applet giving all kinds of issues, staying red if there were no security updates, not turning red if there were etc. It seemed unmaintained and buggy to me.
And what people forget is that the purpose of packagekit is to allow users to install updates without entering the root password.
Oh surprise, people only complains when there is a problem for them. Now people complains because about PackageKit because openSUSE uses it and it's problematic for them. Let's start using kupdateapplet and magically nobody will complain about PackageKit since... well, nobody will be using it. But we will start to enjoy complains about kupdateapplet. Magically bnc#736100 will start to be kupdateapplet and not Apper's fault (hint: it's ZYpp fault). I want a working PackageKit. Other than that I don't care if there is a broken PackageKit or no PackageKit at all. But please, be consistent. If PackageKit is wanted... do nothing. But if PackageKit isn't wanted remove it from everywhere: - "application/x-rpm" and "application/x-redhat-package-manager" default MIME handler - update applet - System Settings->Software Management - any other place where it's used The three changes require the incredible workload of... a single person working for 1 hour. So please, no excuses. If it's not done it will be because nobody able to create a patch from a bit of copy&paste really thinks PackageKit is such a big problem. And I know the openSUSE KDE Team is able of a lot more. This Wednesday there is an openSUSE KDE Team meeting. It would be nice if on Thursday we would get a clear answer from the openSUSE KDE Team as a whole. I will keep the kupdateapplet package in my home repo until the first of November. Then it will be deleted. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org