On Monday 01 July 2013 16:19:43 Felix Miata wrote:
On 2013-07-01 21:14 (GMT+200) Luca Beltrame composed:
Felix Miata composed:
Who is the "we" that has done this separation that enables continued behavior that matches 12.3? Are you speaking on exclusive behalf of
"We" corresponds to the members of the openSUSE KDE team: most of the grunt work is done by shumski and Raymond, with help from Alin and me who mostly handles communication (including with upstream) and Python packaging.
One reason I asked is that I was under an impression that there is or was substantial overlap between the pool of serious (open)SUSE developers and the pool of serious KDE developers.
The fact that Luca replied to my question illustrates a problem some people like me have with name associations that lead to me asking questions like the one that I did. You write that "we" represents (open)SUSE's KDE team, yet write from an @kde email address, and in addition, append a .sig indicating what looks like an upstream association exclusive of (open)SUSE association.
OTOH, šumski and Raymond write from @gmail addresses and append no .sigs at all. Raymond's name I had already learned, but šumski's I don't recall ever having seen before today (like Alin's), hence my question to šumski's reply.
It's much more easily inferred who is speaking on whose behalf or with what authority when to know so is of some relevance and/or importance when it's someone like Andreas Jaeger writing from an @novell or Stephan Kulow writing from an @suse or Cristian Rodriguez writing from an @opensuse email address, or at least if not one of those three email domains, someone who appends a helpful .sig to list mail.
It's hard to give credit where & when it is due when the where is nebulous.
Nebulous is indeed the name of the game in open source communities when it comes to people, I guess it is how it works. Wisest thing to do is always be respectful, you might be talking to Coolo or, heck, Linus Torvalds, without knowing who he is ;-) coolo recently shared, privately, a fun email from somebody lecturing him on release management. Rest assured, it was VERY funny as it was crystal clear the guy had NO idea who he was calling 'incompetent and clearly unexperienced'. Lesson: don't yell at people until you have figured out who they are. Better yet: don't yell at all. It often makes you look stupid ;-) And yes, we all made this mistake, hey, see it as part of the charm of Free Software. Low barriers means you can find yourself talking to super cool folk without knowing it!