Hi, I've installed the KDE packages from http://software.opensuse.org/download/KDE:/KDE4/openSUSE_10.2 to have a bit of a look & play on my openSUSE 10.2 system.I've installed the standard meta-port plus some other packages. When I try to login with the KDE4 preview session selectewd in KDM, the screen goes black & X restarts. Just wondering if anyone has any ideas about troubleshooting this - Xorg.0.log and kdm.log don't show any useful info. I did try starting X without any window manager & then ran kde4init in an xterm. That gave me an warning: no DBUS session-bus found. Perhaps that's got something to do with it? I checked with ps & dbus seems to be running. Cheers, -- Ian GPG Key: http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~imoore/imoore-swift.asc