On Mon, 2008-05-12 at 12:28 -0500, Alberto Passalacqua wrote:
Just my two cents:
You like a boomerang that either kills or comes back to your hand. The fancy coloring is for worthless crap sold to tourists.
well, saying this it seems you mean we have just forced PA in the distro with us knowing it is a piece of crap.
I think we could really have waited for 11.1, when pulseaudio would have been a bit more stable, in the view of having, for once, a good quality release starting from the released day, and not six months later after a lot of patches.
I am seeing, right now, 0 problems with PA, and most people seem to also, so it's not that a few people having problems means it's not stable enough. It means we really need to fix those issues
It works for 99% of the people, and we have seen just 1 report about the bad performance, for which a fix is under way (https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=381686 ).
A lot of people, me included, is not testing it because we use virtual machines, so we don't really know how it behaves on real hardware.
still, some testing on virtual machines, given lots of people will be using them these days, would be really useful. So please test it also there
What's sure is that ubuntu is receiving a lot of complaints about pulseaudio, and the benefits seem to be small to me too.
as some review pointed out, their PA integration is worst than ours :-) But yes, in 11.0 we probably don't see too much benefit, but in future versions, as I already said, we will be able to take advantage of its features for new stuff.
We have not seen 100s of reports about unhappy users, so if there is anything that doesn't work for you, file bugs please, we will be doing our best to fix all the issues, but as I said, so far, all the bug reports are being fixed, and nobody, apart from you, at least that I know, has complained much about PA.
PA is being used now in GNOME upstream, so we have been just following the direction taken there.
True, but we don't always follow upstream for everything. We have probably the most personalised and patched GNOME in openSUSE, with all the advantages and disadvantages.
we are working on fixing that, IMO we should follow upstream as much as possible
Anyway, PA is in. Let's hope it works well. We should just keep an eye on it during the last phases of testing.
yes, please test under all circumstances (VM, etc) :)
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Rodrigo Moya