[opensuse-factory] systemd: What open questions do you have?
I've seen a couple of bugs and quite some confusion about systemd. systemd comes with great man pages, there are upstream blog post and we have our own wiki. But still there are open questions. So, let's try to collect the open questions - like Wolfgang's - and then answer them in a second step. I'll go through the questions and will try to answer some and I hope others (Frederic, please!) help as well. Here's the wiki page and as a start I added the questions by Wolfgang. http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Systemd_status#Open_Questions_that_should_be... Please update the page, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Program Manager openSUSE, aj@{novell.com,opensuse.org} Twitter: jaegerandi | Identica: jaegerandi SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On Thursday 24 November 2011, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
Here's the wiki page and as a start I added the questions by Wolfgang. http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Systemd_status#Open_Questions_that_sh ould_be_documented
Could you please point out to which openSUSE version this page is mostly related? Factory or 12.1? At the beginning of the page there is something about "integrating systemd for openSUSE 12.1" but other details seems to be future Factory related for example about "obsoleting /etc/tmpdirs.d" In other words would be nice to distinct more clearly what I should know about the current 12.1 and what is planned/changed/done for Factory. cu, Rudi -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Le jeudi 24 novembre 2011 à 12:33 +0100, Ruediger Meier a écrit :
On Thursday 24 November 2011, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
Here's the wiki page and as a start I added the questions by Wolfgang. http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Systemd_status#Open_Questions_that_sh ould_be_documented
Could you please point out to which openSUSE version this page is mostly related? Factory or 12.1?
It was Factory before 12.1 was released.
At the beginning of the page there is something about "integrating systemd for openSUSE 12.1" but other details seems to be future Factory related for example about "obsoleting /etc/tmpdirs.d"
I've removed everything which is done / fixed. Of course, help would be gladly welcome, since the hard part (integrating systemd) was done for 12.1, now, it is more a matter of providing native systemd service for all packages shipping initscripts. -- Frederic Crozat <fcrozat@suse.com> SUSE -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On Tuesday, November 29, 2011 11:11 AM Frederic Crozat wrote:
Le jeudi 24 novembre 2011 à 12:33 +0100, Ruediger Meier a écrit :
On Thursday 24 November 2011, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
Here's the wiki page and as a start I added the questions by Wolfgang. http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Systemd_status#Open_Questions_that_sh
ould_be_documented
Could you please point out to which openSUSE version this page is mostly related? Factory or 12.1?
It was Factory before 12.1 was released.
At the beginning of the page there is something about "integrating systemd for openSUSE 12.1" but other details seems to be future Factory related for example about "obsoleting /etc/tmpdirs.d"
I've removed everything which is done / fixed.
Of course, help would be gladly welcome, since the hard part (integrating systemd) was done for 12.1, now, it is more a matter of providing native systemd service for all packages shipping initscripts.
A (probably dumb) question, please: You write that everything which is done/fixed has been removed. Under "List of services to enable" described as "not yet handled natively by systemd", there are quite a number of services still listed. Are we to understand these are as yet not enabled via systemd, but through some other method? Or am I not understanding your remove/fix comment correctly? Or . . . ? Thanks! --dg -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Le mardi 29 novembre 2011 à 12:38 -0500, Dennis Gallien a écrit :
On Tuesday, November 29, 2011 11:11 AM Frederic Crozat wrote:
Le jeudi 24 novembre 2011 à 12:33 +0100, Ruediger Meier a écrit :
On Thursday 24 November 2011, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
Here's the wiki page and as a start I added the questions by Wolfgang. http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Systemd_status#Open_Questions_that_sh
ould_be_documented
Could you please point out to which openSUSE version this page is mostly related? Factory or 12.1?
It was Factory before 12.1 was released.
At the beginning of the page there is something about "integrating systemd for openSUSE 12.1" but other details seems to be future Factory related for example about "obsoleting /etc/tmpdirs.d"
I've removed everything which is done / fixed.
Of course, help would be gladly welcome, since the hard part (integrating systemd) was done for 12.1, now, it is more a matter of providing native systemd service for all packages shipping initscripts.
A (probably dumb) question, please: You write that everything which is done/fixed has been removed. Under "List of services to enable" described as "not yet handled natively by systemd", there are quite a number of services still listed.
This is normal : the focus for 12.1 was to get systemd in, not to convert everything as native systemd services (it would have been nice to, but very few people stepped in to do the work, unfortunately).
Are we to understand these are as yet not enabled via systemd, but through some other method? Or am I not understanding your remove/fix comment correctly? Or . . . ?
No, native systemd services must be written for those files (and ideally, shared with other distro, like Fedora, so we don't redo work done by others, if possible). -- Frederic Crozat <fcrozat@suse.com> SUSE -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On Tuesday, November 29, 2011 12:48 PM Frederic Crozat wrote:
Le mardi 29 novembre 2011 à 12:38 -0500, Dennis Gallien a écrit :
On Tuesday, November 29, 2011 11:11 AM Frederic Crozat wrote:
[snip]
A (probably dumb) question, please: You write that everything which is done/fixed has been removed. Under "List of services to enable" described as "not yet handled natively by systemd", there are quite a number of services still listed.
This is normal : the focus for 12.1 was to get systemd in, not to convert everything as native systemd services (it would have been nice to, but very few people stepped in to do the work, unfortunately).
Are we to understand these are as yet not enabled via systemd, but through some other method? Or am I not understanding your remove/fix comment correctly? Or . . . ?
No, native systemd services must be written for those files (and ideally, shared with other distro, like Fedora, so we don't redo work done by others, if possible).
Thanks, Frederic. I understand now. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
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