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On 11/19/2010 03:14 PM, Martin Schlander wrote:
Fredag den 19. november 2010 20:54:11 skrev Jeff Mahoney:
The expressions on their faces when they see how many ridiculous hoops I need to jump through to configure the Packman repository and then replace the codecs changes to exasperation
You mean go to a website like opensuse-community.org or opensuse-guide.org, click on a codec 1-click, then click next a couple of times, accept vendor change. Done. Or copy/paste a couple of zypper commands.
I've been a SUSE/openSUSE user for 11 years and didn't know that the codec 1-click existed. That would be easy -- but how about actually making it easily available to the user? Having it on a web site out there - even one that's supposedly "obvious" is an extra step that most users don't even know about. gstreamer has a "go-find-a-plugin" component that doesn't even work.
As for copying/pasting a couple of zypper commands, do you really think that's something I'm going to explain to my mom over the phone?
For comparison have these people ever tried finding a codecpack for MS Windows without malware, to play anything other than wma/wmv/mp3/avi? (does Windows support anything else out of the box?) ;-)
Probably not. But most of the media that they're likely to play falls under the codecs you just listed. They don't even get those with openSUSE.
The patent issues with the codecs is quite different from the license "issues" with Adobe Flash or MS Fonts. Flash could even be included on the media again, but that would mean making restrictions on redistribution of the DVD again.
- -- Jeff Mahoney SUSE Labs