Gerald Pfeifer wrote:
On Sat, 23 Feb 2008, Per Jessen wrote:
Gerald, none of those are reasons for deprecating JFS IMHO. You said "there is a reason why JFS is deprecated with current versions of SLES" - now instead of one strong argument, you list four very weak arguments:
So the two line summary provided by Marcus is a "clean product management decision", but the background information that lead to this decision is weak? That's funny. :-)
Well, the thing is that you left the door open, whereas Marcus slammed it shut. I can't argue against a plain and unequivocal decision made by product management, whereas I can argue against a list of arguments :-)
However, ext3 is the primary file system used by many if not most other distributions and we surely wnat that level of compatibility.
That's a novel point - what compatibility are we talking about? If we're looking at new or relatively new users, they may be likely to switch from one distro to another, but as a distro-provider, do you really want to encourage that? Second, an experienced or professional user is - in my experience - unlikely to switch, so compatibility is not really required. However, what the _default_ file system should be is not really my concern.
ReiserFS has been the primary SUSE file system in the past so we need it for compatibility. And XFS is much more alive than JFS, we get a lot of requests for it, have quite some users (in openSUSE) and it is well supported by SGI.
What I'd like to understand is - why are you getting requests for XFS when it's already there? Also, I haven't seen a single person on e.g. the openSUSE lists ask for or complain about XFS support. So where is that wave coming from? If it's your SLES customers, I still don't understand it - they've got XFS, so why ask for it?
We have engineers on staff and/or tight partnerships who are closely familiar with ext3, ReiserFS, and XFS and thus can and readily do address issues with these three. This is not the case for JFS.
My experience when dealing with openSUSE kernel level support is that you're very selective with giving it to anyone. Note - I am absolutely _not_ complaining, I'm just making an observation. I've had at least two, maybe three issues in the past couple of years that have clearly required that level of expertise. Yet they took forever to get any attention, and when they were finally at the top of the queue, they got swept away with "ancient hardware or lack of documentation, we can't be bothered". As it happens I mostly agree, but don't wave your flag of "openSUSE kernel level support" when it's so difficult to come by anyway. In my opinion, Novell is mixing openSUSE and SLES a little too much. The level of support is obviously different - as it should be - but to omit support for <something> from openSUSE just because you are not prepared to offer the required level of support for SLES, that's not in the interest of the openSUSE community, IMHO. 0/Per Jessen, Zürich -- http://www.spamchek.com/ - your spam is our business. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org