On Mon, 25 Feb 2008, Per Jessen wrote:
Well, the thing is that you left the door open,
whereas Marcus slammed
it shut. I can't argue against a plain and unequivocal decision made by
product management, whereas I can argue against a list of arguments :-)
:-) And you're welcome to! Feedback and discussion are good, but
I will also try to be more explicit about unequivocally done deals
in the future.
is the primary file system used by many if not most
other distributions and we surely wnat that level of compatibility.
novel point - what compatibility are we talking about?
Being able to use (most) filesystems created by other distros, create
filesystems for use by other distros, and specifically to allow for
sharing filesystems in dual boot and similar situations. ext3 here
is the common demonitator among Linux distributions.
If we're looking at new or relatively new users,
they may be likely
to switch from one distro to another, but as a distro-provider, do
you really want to encourage that?
Well, we surely want to encourage folks to switch _to_ openSUSE. ;-)
What I'd like to understand is - why are you
getting requests for XFS
when it's already there?
It's not requests to *add* XFS support, but feedback from openSUSE users,
developers and supporters, both in house and externally, partners, and
customers (on the SLE side) how they use and appreciate XFS support
especially since it is something few other distros offer, and none at
the level we do.
On the contrary, when it comes to JFS it's only been a handful of,
admittedly very vocal ;-), users pushing for it.
As it happens I mostly agree, but don't wave your
flag of "openSUSE
kernel level support" when it's so difficult to come by anyway.
I beg to disagree in that I have seen ReiserFS issues and other critical
kernel issues which affect a larger number of users addressed very
quickly. Obviously this is the easier to do the more knowledge we
have among openSUSE contributors (which, on the kernel side, mainly
boils down to Novell engineers, sadly).
In my opinion, Novell is mixing openSUSE and SLES a
little too much. The
level of support is obviously different - as it should be - but to omit
support for <something> from openSUSE just because you are not prepared
to offer the required level of support for SLES, that's not in the
interest of the openSUSE community, IMHO.
This is not what I wrote. The string "SLES" does not even appear below.
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You're right that the level of "support" the openSUSE development
community provides widely varies among different components.
Data loss or, worse, data corruption, are usually considered quite
critical so we do want to be a bit more cautious on this front and
this is why, for example, YaST issues a warning when setting up a
JFS volume whereas we certainly don't do this when a user chooses
one of the many secondary window environments in openSUSE.
We have engineers on staff and/or tight partnerships who are closely
familiar with ext3, ReiserFS, and XFS and thus can and readily do
address issues with these three. This is not the case for JFS.
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