On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 08:14:29PM +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2012-09-19 19:52, Lars Müller wrote:
On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 06:53:31PM +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:
but this rpm does not fool yast, it doesn't have the needed clauses which I don't know what they are nor how to create :-(
This is not about to foul.
It's about to understand what's going on and then you'll see what's missing. As soon as you know what's required you know what the pseudo package has to provide.
Well, I assume that the people that did the packaging of JRE in the past would know how to create that rpm in an instant. For me it is next to impossible.
You started to work on it and I guess you're on the right way. See my last reply. You need to enhance it further. And find others willing to colaborate with you. That's what the Open Build Service is made for!
But this only makes sense if someone is willing to maintain this as I tried to outline in the mail accessible from the archive URL quoted above.
But this fake rpm doesn't need maintenance, it stays the same for the entire life of a distro, I believe. You don't even need to bump versions, because the real rpm containing java is installed by the user, it is his responsibility.
But a user expects to get updates if it's this easy to install something. If we make it easy to install we have ti ensure to make it easy to maintain it to. I don't claim to have the solution for the issue. But before we offer something as part of the openSUSE project we need to make a bit more than only one step.
The task of this rpm is only to fool yast (or whatever word you like)
If you write on this list try to learn the terminology. It's not about what I or anyone else likes it's about what we disduss and to make our communication easier and even as precise as possible. Sorry for being this pedantic. Here this is a feature and not a bug. ;)
so that we do not need to install another java.
If someone wants to provide one that also does the fetching and installing, that would be wonderful - but it is not really needed.
It is needed. See above. Please move the pros and cons to a wiki page. As a starting point you might take the questions I raised with this mail http://lists.openSUSE.org/opensuse-factory/2012-09/msg00736.html Thanks, Lars -- Lars Müller [ˈlaː(r)z ˈmʏlɐ] Samba Team + SUSE Labs SUSE Linux, Maxfeldstraße 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany