On Sun September 7 2008 3:18:14 am Felix Miata wrote:
On 2008/09/06 21:34 (GMT-0400) Patrick Shanahan apparently typed:
* Felix Miata
[09-06-08 13:39]: I can't work without hide taskbar. When I need a fullscreen screenshot of a web browser and its content, as I often do (e.g. https://qa.mandriva.com/attachment.cgi?id=10781 ), there has to be a way for me to get rid of the kicker that doesn't involve logging out or rebooting first.
killall kicker
do your work
<alt><f2>"kicker"
that was hard!
For you. I'm working in a stable and mature GUI and expect to to do such things with a mouse click or two without giving anything much thought, and probably won't remember anything about Alt-F2 if and when KDE4 gets shoved down my throat without working panel collapse.
Do you have a workaround for https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=152761 too? Until (most) things like these are fixed, KDE4 is nothing more than beta-ware. I expect beta-ware in Factory, not a purchased DVD distro release.
Don't hold your breath... This is a direct quote from one of the KDE developers taken directly from their buglist regarding that very bug and to me is indicative of the whole attitude about providing the functionality we lose in 4.x in order to gain all the new wonderous vector graphics resizeable icons we all need instead of an ability to do useful work that we used to have..... Quote:
Robert Knight 2008-08-26 12:36:39
How much are we talking about here to fix this thing? In truth, not a lot of work to get KDE 3.5.x functionality back again. I did plan to do this for KDE 4.1 but it didn't happen because I was originally hoping to introduce improved restore of sessions since I always considered that just restoring the program and path was almost useless. Evidently a lot of users don't feel the same way. But please don't wait for it to happen. The Konsole code is fairly clean and this would be a good job for a new developer. If you haven't worked on KDE code before and you'd like to make a contribution then please get in touch. Seasoned developers are also welcome to apply.
EndQuote. In one breath he says it isn't a lot of work to get the FUNCTIONALITY back again, and in the next, he says DON'T WAIT. Our esteemed moderator said IBM shot itself in it's d**k regarding OS/2. That is probably true. They did it when they teamed up with M$. Now, it appears that KDE is shooting itself in the same appendage and expecting US to tell us where it hurts! Richard --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org