On 27/01/15 17:43, Jim Henderson wrote:
On Tue, 27 Jan 2015 17:42:09 +1100, Basil Chupin wrote:
What is Tumbleweed based on? I was under the assumption that TW was based on oS 13.2 and that it was the "rolling version" of oS 13.2. But is it? Fromhttps://en.opensuse.org/Portal:Tumbleweed :
"Tumbleweed is based on Factory, openSUSE's main development codebase. Tumbleweed is updated once Factory's bleeding edge software has been integrated, stabilized and tested. Tumbleweed contains the latest stable applications and is ready for daily use."
Ah, but you left out the para. before this one: "The Tumbleweed distribution is a pure rolling release version of openSUSE containing the latest stable versions of all software instead of relying on rigid periodic release cycles. The project does this for users that want the newest, but stable software." You have Factory, which is the "Let's try this out on the Users and see what happens"; when the Users say nothing about what is in the melting pot, or too timid to speak out what is in Factory, Factory is put out as an openSUSE Release - the last one being 13.2. But Factory continues on and will eventually produce openSUSE 14.0 (whatever). So, Tumbleweed is really a continuation of 13.2 which was spawned from Factory, right? Stating what is in the para. above, "Tumbleweed is based on Factory, openSUSE's main development codebase......" acknowledges this. Tumbleweed is now (forget about what happened before Novemember 2014) a progression of 13.2 by way of Factory. And in 8 months time it will be based on what openSUSE 14.0 (whatever) will be when it is released. But all this is really playing with words...... My posts also raises 2 questions: 1) if Tumbleweed comes from Factory then why are there so many problems being reported re Tumbleweed when people try it? The Portal states, as you show above, that TW is updated after "......software has been integrated, stabilized and tested. ....." See for example the comments to the announcement that the snapshot 20150126 has just been released. I am not affected by this, nor by claims by others that they cannot install TW or that the networking does not work - all claims made in this list - because I have installed 20150125 only a couple of days ago and all is fine for ME - but I am now just asking why people should be reporting problems when TW's snapshot is released *after* "......software has been integrated, stabilized and tested. ....."; and 2) one gathers from the description of TW is that it is a usable piece of software (albeit with qualifications) which is ahead of a previous release of openSUSE (namely 13.2 in this instance). But then why doesn't it have all the available repositories available to it for people to use? For example there are: download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/Extra/openSUSE_Tumbleweed download.opensuse.org/repsitories/games/openSUSE_Tumbleweed but there is not mention of them: they don't appear in the list of repositories in YaST nor are they mentioned in the Tumbleweed Portal. These are clearly shown in the list of repositories in download.opensuse.org/repositories yet are not included in TW's YaST. BC -- Using openSUSE 13.2, KDE 4.14.3 & kernel 3.18.3-1 on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX660 GPU -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org