On 6/14/12, Stephan Kulow
Let's discuss things very openly - I think we learned enough about where the current model works and where it doesn't so we can develop a new one together.
I hope I make sense here. Please correct me where I am wrong. How do we go about deciding what makes the next point version? I thought the reason openSUSE went to the 8 month schedule was to take more time than a 6 month schedule allowed, but to get new versions out sooner than yearly. So, if we are taking a snapshot of factory at a certain time, then that should be made into the next version. Correct? So, if we take factory as it is on Jan 1 & then move it to Beta, that means we are going to keep what versions we have(except in cases where newer versions are actually needed or make sense). Now, I've seen several instances over the years where new software was pushed in after the Betas started(10.1/Beta 3 new package manager ring any bells). I thought that was a bad idea at the time, and I still think things like this are. If theres a need for something, then we need to scrap the current Beta and move back to an Alpha again. Only for very specific reasons should that even be considered. Once we split factory off into a proposed point version, then we should work to stabilize what is and test it to get it out the door. This seems to be the approach that most distros use. Basically, i would recommened scrapping this milestone stuff & go back to alphas/betas/Rcs, Alpha releases - 2 or 3 that are snapped out of factory that allow the inclusion of new versions of programs if there is a complelling reason for the upgrade. Betas - No new package versions without just cause. Major integration time & bug fixes. RCs - Final testing before release(bug fixes, etc). Now, I like the tumbleweed idea. I would like so see more work to move updates to like KDE4 or GNOME3 that are put in their own repos(that I've always felt most users don't add or make use of - mainly because they aren't aware of them. Maybe they should be asked if they want them during the install?) moved into Tumbleweed so the seperate repos aren't neccessary for most users(which may be the case? I haven't tested Tumbleweed out yet). Just my 2 cents - not technical, but a user/tester perception. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org