On 22 April 2017 at 11:11, Luke Jones
It was naive of me to suggest such. Apologies.
In this discussion, like in quite a few others, I feel like this distro and community has a major identity crisis. It's swimming around somewhere without really knowing what it should or wants to be and how/why that makes it stand out from the rest and a good choice when compared to the actually big distros of nowadays (ubuntu, ubtuntu, ubuntu, Fedora, Debian, Mint, others?).
I'm getting this feeling also. Maybe it should be discussed at some point in the future.
I disagree. The Board has had a strong, clear, vision regarding this for several years now. We talked about it at oSC 15 https://speakerdeck.com/sysrich/opensuse-vision I've been talking at length (the only way I know how coolo, sorry) in those terms at every opportunity for years now: eg. https://speakerdeck.com/sysrich/linuxcon-europe-2016-open-enterprise-and-ope... As promised back then www.opensuse.org reflects the new identity Sure, this thread is an indicator that there are a number of people who frequent this list who aren't on the same page. That is something we need to address, but would I say it's a 'major identity crisis'? not on your life. You just need to look at the outputs of our project, the major ones being Leap and Tumbleweed. These products embody the vision laid out 2 years ago. A large number of decisions surrounding both are strongly informed by this strong identity. I would say that there is no question in my mind that almost all, if not all, of the core contributors to these projects are consciously aware of what they're doing and how it fits into that broader picture of what openSUSE is trying to do. This mailinglist is a public forum, 'the public' is a much larger body of people that our contributors, and much more likely to retain long held conceptions of the Project. Given we are a project that is 12 years old and we only set these changes in motion in the last few years, I don't see this thread as anything more than a healthy sign of growing pains along the road we started 2 years ago. The fact that Tomas was able to make this suggestion as succinctly as he did and as many people as they have understood, considered, and responded in the context of that general intended direction of the Project is actually quite reassuring to me. The idea to take Tomas' suggestion to a next step with more verbose guidance on choosing a desktop is a good example of something which is perfectly aligned with that openSUSE identity, hence I helped shift that into a new thread. Thanks! :) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org