On Tuesday 09 September 2008 04:36:21 pm Will Stephenson wrote:
On Sunday 07 September 2008 16:39:55 MH wrote:
I've played around with KDE4.0 (which was early beta at best IMO) and 4.1 (still beta). These are the things I don't like about it:
Ok, I'm collecting wishlists again.
Unable to hide the panel (I've loved this feature since it was first implemented in Windows. Reduces clutter, increases screen area);
Implemented in trunk and planned to be backported. The trunk implementation only has auto-hide, did you use the manual hide buttons?
No. Only used auto-hide. I always removed the manual hide buttons as they were just more clutter.
Unable to locate "launcher" icons on the panel where they will stay;
"Launcher" icons radomly change location on the panel even at "default" locations;
This must be a bug. Is it reported?
Not sure. To be honest, I kind of gave up on bug reporting because I found the interface difficult to use (not to mention having to maintain separate logins). Maybe it's improved. In any case, I once reported a bug regarding the "nv" driver and the problem remains nearly 2 years later. So for me personally, I couldn't see much point.
Unable to resize icons;
On the panel? Historical note: their size used to be configurable until
about
KDE 3.1, then they were changed to automatically take the largest size that fits on the configured panel height.
I was referring to the desktop icons (widgets?). The "resize" option does nothing. I was not able to find a more general option anywhere in desktop configuration/appearance.
Folder View takes its icon size from the configured (in System Settings) Desktop/File Manager icon size.
I still don't even understand what "folder view" is or what it's supposed to accomplish. How is that any different from a short-cut to a folder? Or sized file manager view?
Unable to keep icons in designated areas of the desktop without constantly locking and unlocking them (with 3.x you could "align to grid" and be done with it);
Folder View aligns pretty well to grid by default. Have you tried this?
See above. As far as I can tell, folder view has nothing to do with desktop icons used for launching apps.
Unable to assign different backgrounds to virtual desktops to make them easy to identify;
Go vote on https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=155150 . Currently KDE 4.2
is
a way off feature freeze, so there is still time to get things like this re- added.
OK. Thanks for the link. Save me having to hunt it down.
Lack of stability. KDE4.1 has crashed on me repeatedly;
Our packages aren't just 'released' 4.1.1, we are constantly updating them with fixes that go into the branch. So report specific bugs and we'll get
the
stability up.
That's why I'm waiting. Things like moving desktop icons around shouldn't take the system down.
Lack of key native applications. Yes, the 3.x series variants can be installed and run, but not without a great deal of extra libraries and assorted cruft (isn't removing cruft and "bloat" one of the design goals
the 4.x series?)
Most of these are being ported. It's true that a number will still be
of present
as KDE 3 apps only for 11.1 - digikam (maybe), konversation, koffice. You're absolutely right about streamlining being a KDE 4 goal, but the sheer number of KDE apps has made it impossible to port everything immediately.
I understand that. I have no problem with that, as long as it's a goal that is actively being pursued. Like I said above, I can wait.
I don't give much weight to the 'extra libraries' argument on a general purpose desktop or laptop though. On a SSD-based netbook, sure. However
disk
space and ram being what they are, the extra cruft (a few tens of Mb) involved in installing KDE 3 and KDE 4 in parallel is no great increase over the bloat we all have from having OpenOffice, Mozilla, Eclipse and maybe a couple of g* apps installed.
Maybe not. But if one situation isn't better than another where's the motivation to change?
Will
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