--- Paul Taylor
On Sunday 07 Dec 2003 6:34 pm, Thomas Adam wrote:
--- Paul Taylor
wrote: I've done all that Thomas but it still doesn't work. With Mandrake you
Doesn't work? What, you mean it didn't play a fanfare for you, or did perhaps play a song for you instead?
As usual your condescending tone is rather churlish and unhelpful. Yes I am a point and click user as are many on this list and no I don't have endless hours as part of a university course to play around with configuration files.
It is a shame, since neither do I.
A simple, "try this" would suffice. If all you can offer is condescension I would prefer you just bite your lip and keep quite. I am teaching Linux at school and influencing many students to adopt the system in a gradual manner as the dominant paradigm is a "point and click" system. If I turn around and chastice students arogantly because they have not recompiled a driver in
order to make their system work which works perfectly well under Windows I will not get very far.
That's a nice sentiment, Paul. But, I hope that your students realise the the CLI has more power over GUI's. Yes, GUI's visually enumerate such functions as the CLI equivilents, but they will/can never replace them.
That "doesn't work" is an UTTERLY useless comment, Paul. Did you get any errors? What have you tried to do to perhaps fix it?
If I had any errors that meant anything I would post them for comment. It doesn't work means, it doesn't work.
press Shift + Space and an IME window pops up in the application. I need something as painless as that.
Well, I recommend you install Mandrake over SuSE in that case. Sorry, but if you want to be a point and click man like that, maybe window is more suited to you?
Despite this I will continue to use SuSE as I have done in my presumably
pointless 'point and click' way as I have done for several years. I will also continue to coax and encourage students to use the system and where
possible give them guidance and meaningful support about how to get over
Good. I encourage that.
problems. Saying that you have to do it CLI all the time seems to me to be a stance more atuned to a system that dictates how you should do it with little option about how to change it - maybe windows is more suited to you?
No no no. The CLI is useful because it is something that is *always* there. How on earth can I use the GUI to help when at first glance I know *nothing* about the applications you may or may not have installed? With the CLI, *I* know that what I suggest to you will 99% of the time work.
-- Thomas Adam
Very angrily yours,
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