http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=600184 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=600184#c yang xiaoyu changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |xyyang@novell.com AssignedTo|bnc-team-screening@forge.pr |yast2-maintainers@suse.de |ovo.novell.com | -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=600184 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=600184#c1 Michael Andres changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |ma@novell.com --- Comment #1 from Michael Andres 2010-04-28 12:21:19 CEST --- The reason for this message is people being confused if 'zypper dup <Package>' says 'no update available' but they do know there is a higher version in some repo. They usually don't recognize the policy the higher version package violates (different arch, different vendor, low prio repo). @Jano: But I would not name them 'package updates', because they are no updates as they violate some solver policy. Those are just 'higher versions' which cant be autoselected for some reason. Telling it that way the user will not assume he's missing something if they are not installed. + I'd simply write out a line telling that there are N packages with higher versions available, which were not selected due to some policy violation. The full list (including versions and violated policy) can be seen in the detailed view. ++ If there is some spare time, offer a way to pick packages from this list and add them to the transaction. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=600184 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=600184#c2 Ján Kupec changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |ASSIGNED CC| |jkupec@novell.com AssignedTo|zypp-maintainers@forge.prov |jkupec@novell.com |o.novell.com | --- Comment #2 from Ján Kupec 2010-04-28 10:52:23 UTC --- (In reply to comment #1)

@Jano: But I would not name them 'package updates', because they are no updates as they violate some solver policy. Those are just 'higher versions' which cant be autoselected for some reason. Telling it that way the user will not assume he's missing something if they are not installed.

I agree, i would just like the 'section title' to be max 79 chars long, and that's a bit hard in this case. Any suggestion? But maybe we should exclude the changed arch case - seems a bit useless, and it is actually what Harald reports IIUC. And list just vendor/priority/deps cases.

+ I'd simply write out a line telling that there are N packages with higher versions available, which were not selected due to some policy violation. The full list (including versions and violated policy) can be seen in the detailed view.

I'd like to keep the simple list of package names shown right away (my preference, but if more people will ask not to show them, i'll change it of course), but i agree on the detailed view, where the reason would be listed as well. Currently one has to do 'zypper up packagename' too see the reason.

++ If there is some spare time, offer a way to pick packages from this list and add them to the transaction.

Yup, i have this on my radar, together with other options to modify current selection when the summary is shown (like take away from or add to the list, show detailed info, changelog of a package from the list, etc). Just the spare time is missing :) -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=600184 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=600184#c3 --- Comment #3 from Michael Andres 2010-04-28 13:41:42 CEST --- (In reply to comment #2)

But maybe we should exclude the changed arch case - seems a bit useless, and

Maybe the 'arch downgrade' case; but the arch upgrade (i585->x86_64) could be interesting? -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=600184 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=600184#c5 Patrick Smart changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |novell@lietar.eu --- Comment #5 from Patrick Smart 2010-05-16 21:28:14 UTC --- (In reply to comment #2)

Currently one has to do 'zypper up packagename' too see the reason.

Is it normal/known that the reason doesn't appear in an up-to-date 11.2? -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=600184 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=600184#c7 Ján Kupec changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|ASSIGNED |RESOLVED Resolution| |DUPLICATE --- Comment #7 from Ján Kupec 2010-10-30 16:31:36 UTC --- c#6: ok, this report is about something different (the different-arch-update unnecessarily shown). Showing of the reason is planned, but we currently don't have time to do it. We need to stick with 'zypper up foo' showing the reason for now. c#4: second thought, even 'arch upgrade' is annoying in this case (when only the build number changes). And even if it really was a real update, the user must have had some reason for having the package installed in the inferior arch, so s/he will probably not want to change the arch just because newer version is there. All in all, i fixed zypper to not show the different archs in "NOT updated" list (except for noarch <-> somearch changes). *** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 646410 *** http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=646410 -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.