http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=916801 --- Comment #2 from Jon Grossart --- Not having the KF5 app also creates an extra step on a fresh install when the user upgrades to kwallet5 where the user has to migrate over their KDE4 wallets to the new format rather than just starting with the correct format. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.

http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=916801 Raymond Wooninck changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |tittiatcoke@gmail.com --- Comment #4 from Raymond Wooninck --- Lets be clear in this, that Plasma 5 (KDE Frameworks 5) is NOT the default KDE desktop for openSUSE and is offered in many ways as a kind of technology preview. Only a few applications have been ported to KF5/Plasma 5 and therefore openSUSE still has KDE 4 as the KDE desktop. This is also the reason why there is no pattern that would install all the required plasma 5 / KDE Framework 5 packages. Based on your initial comments, you are talking here about the KDE4 patterns and you want to install the KF5 versions of some applications. As that the KF5 versions are using the same filenames, etc, we need to make them conflict with their KDE4 counterparts as that in the end either the KDE4 version works or the KF5 version works. In the future when the decision is taken that KF5 will replace KDE4, we will create the correct patterns. If an user installs kf5-session, then all the required dependencies to run a plasma 5 session are being pulled in. This excludes the KF5 based apps, because the user can still use the KDE4 versions which are much more stable than the KF5 ones -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.

http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=916801 Hrvoje Senjan changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED CC| |hrvoje.senjan@gmail.com Resolution|--- |FIXED --- Comment #5 from Hrvoje Senjan --- there are 2 options to install Plasma 5 desktop. one is plasma5-session, which will pull basic desktop, without any additional applications. this is more for users that already have Plasma 4 installed. second is the mentioned pattern, which is more for users that do not have anything kde4 related installed. for this an update was submitted that will swap kwrite, konsole, kmix & kcm_touchpad for KF5-based counterparts. third point is that plasma packages themselves already are recommending some non-vital/required packages, so there is not much point adding them to either session or pattern packages. users w/o recommends ON should already know what are they doing, so they can cherry pick the addons as they like. kcm-gtk-config5 and kscreen5 fall into this category, as the desktop can startup just fine without them... we can only update patterns once the new KF5-based applications are part of Tumbleweed, which happened recently, as i wrote above. therefore, fixed now. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.

http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=916801 --- Comment #7 from Jon Grossart ---

third point is that plasma packages themselves already are recommending some non-vital/required packages, so there is not much point adding them to either session or pattern packages. users w/o recommends ON should already know what are they doing, so they can cherry pick the addons as they like. kcm-gtk-config5 and kscreen5 fall into this category, as the desktop can startup just fine without them...

That's fine, but then the recommends list need to be updated. None of those modules are in the Recommends, and it still has KDM instead of SDDM. It installs oxygen-gtk, but leaves GTK3 setup to Adwaita with no KCM module to easily change it. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.