Comment # 6 on bug 916801 from Jon Grossart

(In reply to Raymond Wooninck from comment #4)
> Lets be clear in this, that Plasma 5 (KDE Frameworks 5) is NOT the default
> KDE desktop for openSUSE and is offered in many ways as a kind of technology
> preview.  Only a few applications have been ported to KF5/Plasma 5 and
> therefore openSUSE still has KDE 4 as the KDE desktop. 
> 
> This is also the reason why there is no pattern that would install all the
> required plasma 5 / KDE Framework 5 packages.  
> 
> Based on your initial comments, you are talking here about the KDE4 patterns
> and you want to install the KF5 versions of some applications.  As that the
> KF5 versions are using the same filenames, etc, we need to make them
> conflict with their KDE4 counterparts as that in the end either the KDE4
> version works or the KF5 version works. 
> 
> In the future when the decision is taken that KF5 will replace KDE4, we will
> create the correct patterns.
> 
> If an user installs kf5-session, then all the required dependencies to run a
> plasma 5 session are being pulled in. This excludes the KF5 based apps,
> because the user can still use the KDE4 versions which are much more stable
> than the KF5 ones

How about you stop making assumptions about what I'm doing? I know it's not the
default. But the plasma5 basis is a total mess, and not being kept up with the
releases of the upstream software. How do you expect people to test it when it
by default installs in a partial state?

If I install the plasma 5 basis, I expect it should pull in all the KF5 based
apps if they exist for one of the packages, and not the KDE 4 SC version.
(Which Hrvoje Senjan has already updated the pattern for, apprently).

It pulls in konsole, not konsole5. It doesn't even pull in sddm, which is a
requirement for Plasma 5 according to KDE.

I don't expect KDE 4 patterns to pull in KF5 apps, but that idea isn't even up
to date with KDE anymore. The current version of the applications is KDE 14.12
which contains KF5 version when available, or else the continued KDE 4 apps
with versions updated. There isn't even a package that does that correctly.