https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=411183 User kristjan.ugrin@gmail.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=411183#c1 --- Comment #1 from Kristjan Ugrin 2008-07-22 03:50:38 MDT --- Created an attachment (id=229262) --> (https://bugzilla.novell.com/attachment.cgi?id=229262) xorg log -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=411183 User sndirsch@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=411183#c3 Stefan Dirsch changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |ASSIGNED --- Comment #3 from Stefan Dirsch 2008-07-22 04:24:52 MDT --- We needed to switch to Option "AccelMethod" "EXA" Option "MigrationHeuristic" "greedy" by default due to Bug #400788 (update for xorg-x11-driver-video and xorg-x11-server on 2008-07-21). Try Option "AccelMethod" "XAA" This will result in the same performance (and the same bugs) as before. The performance issues with EXA are now handled upstream on bugs.freedesktop.org. There are currently two bugs open, which are addressed by Intel upstream developers. https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16721 https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16773 Hope this helps to understand the situation. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=411183 User kristjan.ugrin@gmail.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=411183#c4 Kristjan Ugrin changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|ASSIGNED |RESOLVED Resolution| |FIXED --- Comment #4 from Kristjan Ugrin 2008-07-22 04:40:24 MDT --- Thank you! It works now. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=411183 Stefan Dirsch changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Summary|intel/EXA: slowdowns with latest Xorg updates |intel/EXA: slowdowns with latest Xorg updates |(945GM) |(945GM/865G) -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=411183 Stefan Dirsch changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|REOPENED |ASSIGNED -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=411183 User sndirsch@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=411183#c8 Stefan Dirsch changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Summary|intel/EXA: slowdowns with latest Xorg updates |intel/EXA: slowdowns with latest Xorg updates |(945GM/865G) |(945GM/865G/G33) --- Comment #8 from Stefan Dirsch 2008-07-26 06:14:09 MDT --- According to Bug #412211, comment #16 Geoff is using a G33 (8086:29C2). So this is no 965 yet. One option would be to go back to XAA for Intel < 965. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=411183 User fejj@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=411183#c9 --- Comment #9 from Jeffrey Stedfast 2008-07-26 08:23:47 MDT --- I also have performance issues with EXA and "large" images cause my apps to exit due to X BadAlloc. This is my video card: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 0c) -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=411183 User gnorton@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=411183#c11 --- Comment #11 from Geoff Norton 2008-07-26 09:46:40 MDT --- Stefan, greedy hueristics make no noticable performance change here (I didn't rerun benchmarks). Jeff and I pretty much both run openSUSE 11.0, Gnome, Compiz, Gnome-Terminal. I run with desktop effects, unsure as to jeff, but I assume he does the same. As mentioned in the other report, the performance degredation is enough to make the system frustrating to work on (waiting for firefox to scroll, waiting for pgup/pgdn in vim to respond, etc) -g -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=411183 User gnorton@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=411183#c13 --- Comment #13 from Geoff Norton 2008-07-26 13:51:28 MDT --- Stefan, I guess it wasn't obvious that I meant switching between greedy and always in my previous comment, but as I said I didn't run x11perf, this was just based on my desktop experience. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=411183 User sndirsch@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=411183#c15 --- Comment #15 from Stefan Dirsch 2008-07-26 14:16:08 MDT --- (In reply to comment #13 from Geoff Norton)

I guess it wasn't obvious that I meant switching between greedy and always in my previous comment, but as I said I didn't run x11perf, this was just based on my desktop experience.

Ok. Maybe it doesn't matter on G33. On 945GM it does - based on my desktop experience. For others it did as well. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=411183 User gnorton@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=411183#c17 --- Comment #17 from Geoff Norton 2008-07-26 15:03:05 MDT --- Stefan, I just side ported: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/9337645/xserver-xorg-video-intel_2.1.1-0ubuntu... Which allows Xv to work (at least on my i915) with compiz and XAA (it runs in overlay mode). I can see no compelling reason to inflict the performance regression on i915 users at the least. Could you please provide one if one remains? I have test rpms available for i586 if you would like. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=411183 User raghugs@gmail.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=411183#c19 Raghu GS changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |raghugs@gmail.com --- Comment #19 from Raghu GS 2008-07-27 05:33:57 MDT --- (In reply to comment #18 from Stefan Dirsch)

Could you attach a complete patch instead? The reference you gave seems to be a diff to an already existing patch. :-(

Hi Stefan This enabling of EXA not only slows down the performance for 945 users, It also considerably slows down the performance of Intel 965 users like me. The issues are -- Fully screen video playback is not perfect, Frame rate is not acceptable. -- Scrolling in Firefox is considerably slow. But the point is, Disabling Compiz might improve the performance when EXA enabled. But it is not acceptable as, Compiz is now become very much a necessity. Even enabling KDE 4 Compositing slows down the performance noticeably. So i suggest reassign this bug report for Intel 965 IGP users too. If possible implement the XV overlay for Intel 965 IGP users too. If XV overlay is not implementable for Intel 965 IGP, i suggest please provide latest Intel drivers that might improve performance. As in XV, i am unable to use my webcam built into my Laptop. Or At least add support for Intel Batch driver argument, as it highly speeds up the performance for Ubuntu users litterally equaling to XAA. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=411183 User raghugs@gmail.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=411183#c21 --- Comment #21 from Raghu GS 2008-07-27 09:05:46 MDT --- My suggestion is If Geof patch become successful, disable EXA for Intel 945 IGP users, For Intel 965 IGP users like me, if possible, enable EXA only if Compiz is not used. Also please try to provide the latest Intel driver as a experimental driver, in different name, at-least via Build Service, so that advanced users like me can easily update to it at the same time, if that latest driver isn't stable users would be able to switch to old stable driver, Fedora also did the same with their experimental Intel driver. Regarding Intel_Batch, we don't need to worry about it as compiz exports that variable by default upon start up. Basically it is not any ubuntu specific stuff, it is driver related option. (In reply to comment #20 from Stefan Dirsch)

(In reply to comment #19 from Raghu GS)

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If possible implement the XV overlay for Intel 965 IGP users too.

I assume this is the patch for which a diff is mentioned in comment #17. I still don't know where to find this patch. Waiting for feedback by Geoff.

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If XV overlay is not implementable for Intel 965 IGP, i suggest please provide latest Intel drivers that might improve performance.

So you suggest to blindly updating to an untested driver? Yes, I've seen the announcement for xf86-video-intel 2.4.0.

[...] * Improved 965 exa render performance

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As in XV, i am unable to use my webcam built into my Laptop.

At the moment XV works with EXA, but not with XAA and Composite enabled.

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At least add support for Intel Batch driver argument, as it highly speeds up the performance for Ubuntu users litterally equaling to XAA.

What the hell is this BATCH variable? I've seen it mentioned in the Ubuntu bugreport too, but I still have no idea what it is supposed to do. It must be one more special patch Ubuntu is using. Please explain.

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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=411183 User raghugs@gmail.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=411183#c23 --- Comment #23 from Raghu GS 2008-07-27 09:42:22 MDT --- (In reply to comment #11 from Geoff Norton)

Stefan,

greedy hueristics make no noticable performance change here (I didn't rerun benchmarks). Jeff and I pretty much both run openSUSE 11.0, Gnome, Compiz, Gnome-Terminal. I run with desktop effects, unsure as to jeff, but I assume he does the same.

As mentioned in the other report, the performance degredation is enough to make the system frustrating to work on (waiting for firefox to scroll, waiting for pgup/pgdn in vim to respond, etc)

-g

Geoff I want to clarify you one important point, Atleast in Intel 965 based IGP There is no performance degradation in EXA when Greedy Heuristics used without enabling Desktop Effects, So you will see the effectiveness of Gready Heuristics only if you disable Desktop Effects and EXA is not that bad if Desktop Effects not running, -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=411183 User sndirsch@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=411183#c25 --- Comment #25 from Stefan Dirsch 2008-07-27 10:47:25 MDT --- (In reply to comment #21 from Raghu GS)

For Intel 965 IGP users like me, if possible, enable EXA only if Compiz is not used.

Not possible. EXA is enabled during configuration. compiz is enabled on-the-fly.

Also please try to provide the latest Intel driver as a experimental driver, in different name, at-least via Build Service, so that advanced users like me can easily update to it at the same time, if that latest driver isn't stable users would be able to switch to old stable driver, Fedora also did the same with their experimental Intel driver.

--> X11:XOrg project

Regarding Intel_Batch, we don't need to worry about it as compiz exports that variable by default upon start up. Basically it is not any ubuntu specific stuff, it is driver related option.

There doesn't exist such an option in the intel driver. Also not as an environment variable for Mesa DRI driver. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=411183 User raghugs@gmail.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=411183#c27 --- Comment #27 from Raghu GS 2008-07-27 22:58:01 MDT --- (In reply to comment #26 from Stefan Dirsch)

(In reply to comment #22 from Geoff Norton)

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Created an attachment (id=230193) --> (https://bugzilla.novell.com/attachment.cgi?id=230193) [details] [details] patch

Thanks. The patch works for me with XAA/Composite. With and without compiz enabled. Not sure if textured video works with XAA/Composite on 965. I need to verify this. Of course the patch will also disable textured video when EXA is used.

Hi Stefan and Geof I have 965 based Intel IGP, aka Intel X3100. If you provide me the patched driver as an RPM, I am willing to test it. Let me know. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=411183 User greywolf82@hotmail.it added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=411183#c29 --- Comment #29 from Marco Stornelli 2008-07-28 09:12:39 MDT --- Hi, I'm sorry if I opened another bug report....However I've got a 865G chipset and when I use EXA the system is really slow. Now with the workaround in "Most Annoying Bugs 11.0" everything work ok. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=411183 User sndirsch@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=411183#c31 --- Comment #31 from Stefan Dirsch 2008-07-28 10:59:08 MDT --- Created an attachment (id=230309) --> (https://bugzilla.novell.com/attachment.cgi?id=230309) xf86-video-intel-xaa-noTexVideo.diff New patch proposal. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=411183 User sndirsch@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=411183#c32 --- Comment #32 from Stefan Dirsch 2008-07-28 11:09:49 MDT --- I'm now planning another update for our xorg-x11-driver-video package on openSUSE 11.0. xorg-x11-driver-video.changes: ------------------------------------------------------------------- Mon Jul 28 18:52:40 CEST 2008 - sndirsch@suse.de - xf86-video-intel-default2xaa.diff * due to serious overall performance regressions switch back to XAA for intel driver again (bnc #411183) - xf86-video-intel-xaa-noTexVideo.diff * fixed Xvideo with XAA/Composite enabled by disabling textured video when XAA is enabled (bnc #411183) Packages for testing will be available shortly. I would like to see this update well tested. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=411183 User gnorton@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=411183#c34 --- Comment #34 from Geoff Norton 2008-07-28 11:57:39 MDT --- Stefan, This is fantastic news! Thank you so much for reverting the change. Jeff and I will test the updated packages today. -g -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=411183 User raghugs@gmail.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=411183#c36 --- Comment #36 from Raghu GS 2008-07-29 00:35:58 MDT --- I think i have found the problem regarding my Webcam issue, One weired finding is, most of the videos i have is not playing in Windowed Mode. Only playing in Full-Screen mode. When i played them in Windowed Mode, i see black screen. But even more weired finding is, a set of High Quality MP4 files that i have downloaded in Rapidshare is playing in Windowed Mode perfectly (also in Full-Screen mode too). As both luvcvideo and cheese are not showing the webcam's content in Full Screen mode, that might be the reason for my webcam not working. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=411183 User raghugs@gmail.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=411183#c38 --- Comment #38 from Raghu GS 2008-07-29 01:23:53 MDT --- (In reply to comment #37 from Stefan Dirsch)

So all in all you don't see a regression, Raghu. Is this correct?

Performance wise there is no regression. But functionality wise there is a regression as i am no longer be able use my webcam and most of the videos are not playing in Windowed Mode. But i have to say that all video files are playing perfectly in Full-Screen Mode using XVideo under Compiz-Fusion in Kaffeine media player that uses Xine back-end. So if you are able to fix the Windowed Mode Playback. that would be really great. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=411183 User raghugs@gmail.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=411183#c40 --- Comment #40 from Raghu GS 2008-07-29 01:41:38 MDT --- (In reply to comment #39 from Stefan Dirsch)

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So if you are able to fix the Windowed Mode Playback.

Sure that this worked before in XAA?

Webcam functionality and Video Playback in Windowed Mode was working perfectly in XAA if Compiz-Fusion or Desktop Effects in KDE 4 are not enabled. Now Webcam Functionality and Windowed Video Playback are not working even if Compiz-Fusion or Desktop Effects in KDE4 are disabled. BTW I think we are spaming the email boxes of people in the CC list, Can we carry on our discussion in #suse channel if you have further questions? FYI my nick name in IRC is raddy -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=411183 User sndirsch@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=411183#c42 --- Comment #42 from Stefan Dirsch 2008-07-29 01:58:34 MDT --- @IRC: I would like to have any discussion nicely tracked on Bugzilla - for everyone. This is one of the features of Bugzilla. If anyone feels spammed by this discussion, feel free to remove yourself from this bugreport. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=411183 User sndirsch@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=411183#c44 --- Comment #44 from Stefan Dirsch 2008-07-29 03:22:20 MDT --- (In reply to comment #43 from Raghu GS)

Switching from textured video to overlay video in Intel 965 based IGPs https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/1522...

http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xorg/2008-February/033331.html http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xorg/2008-February/033332.html The first patch is already applied to our driver (2.3.1). The second adds an option to use textured video (default is overlay), which is even not upstream yet. I'm considering to apply it. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=411183 User sndirsch@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=411183#c46 --- Comment #46 from Stefan Dirsch 2008-07-29 03:45:32 MDT --- I didn't plan to make TexturedVideo the default for XAA. My hope was that using TexturedVideo would fix your issues. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=411183 User sndirsch@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=411183#c48 --- Comment #48 from Stefan Dirsch 2008-07-29 06:48:57 MDT --- No idea, but I think it makes sense to provide the option to use TexturedVideo also for XAA. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=411183 User sndirsch@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=411183#c50 --- Comment #50 from Stefan Dirsch 2008-07-29 08:47:31 MDT --- (In reply to comment #49 from Geoff Norton)

Stefan,

xf86XVFillKeyHelperDrawable is a colour key helper function for XV+compositing window managers. It shouldn't be causing this.

So this hunk should always be added, not matter if we use EXA/XAA, Textured/Overlay Xvideo, right? I'm wondering, since it's not upstream yet. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=411183 User sndirsch@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=411183#c52 --- Comment #52 from Stefan Dirsch 2008-07-29 10:00:20 MDT --- Packages for testing will be available shortly on http://beta.suse.com/private/sndirsch/bug411183/ Built date needs to be 29-Jul-2008. Please give them a try. And test all kind of combinations of Option "Accelmethod" "EXA/XAA" Option "TexturedVideo" "on/off" with and without compiz running. Default is now XAA + TexturedVideo off. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=411183 User raghugs@gmail.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=411183#c54 --- Comment #54 from Raghu GS 2008-07-30 00:31:56 MDT --- Hi Stefan I have just finished the testing. In XAA TexturedVideo produces black video output both in Webcam application and in Dragon Player. Without Compiz under XAA, Enabling TexturedVideo displays video in perfect frame rate. In EXA TexturedVideo shows video in any area of the screen, but frame rate is below normal in Windowed Mode and Very Low in Full Screen Mode, Without Compiz under EXA, Enabling TexturedVideo displays. perfect video frame rate. So Enabling TexturedVideo and EXA is only good when Compositing Window Manager is not in use. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=411183 User raghugs@gmail.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=411183#c56 --- Comment #56 from Raghu GS 2008-07-30 01:50:52 MDT --- (In reply to comment #55 from Stefan Dirsch)

Raghu, thanks a lot for testing.

XAA + TexturedVideo was the default for our initial intel driver on OS 11.0. Are you still claiming you see a regression with the new driver after enabling this combination manually? I no longer see a difference to the initial driver sources with this combination configured.

I am not seeing any regression in the current driver regarding XAA + TexturedVideo In your initial intel driver also i was not able to watch movies or Webcam that use XVideo Extension.

You can disable TexturedVideo also for EXA. Maybe this is what you want. On my 965GM this was a lot faster for fullscreen videos when having it enabled (default).

As i have posted in my previous reply i tried that combination also, In EXA + Video Overlay, both Webcam and Movies are working Perfectly. But EXA is not compatible with Compiz, So i am using XAA. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=411183 Stefan Dirsch changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|ASSIGNED |NEEDINFO Info Provider| |gnorton@novell.com -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=411183 User sndirsch@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=411183#c59 --- Comment #59 from Stefan Dirsch 2008-07-31 01:20:12 MDT --- Which driver settings? Sure that this didn't occur with the initial driver yet? Please verify. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=411183 User raghugs@gmail.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=411183#c61 --- Comment #61 from Raghu GS 2008-07-31 06:40:37 MDT --- (In reply to comment #59 from Stefan Dirsch)

Which driver settings? Sure that this didn't occur with the initial driver yet? Please verify.

It happens always in all configuration with Compiz-Fusion in Stock Driver too. If Compiz-Fusion disabled it is not happening, so it is not a regression. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=411183 User raghugs@gmail.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=411183#c64 --- Comment #64 from Raghu GS 2008-08-03 05:34:49 MDT --- Hi Stefan It seems Geof/Jeff won't leave feedback, I think you can release the patch now it self as Geof already satisfied with the patch. And this time it won't create any adverse effects other than Videos not playing in all areas of the screen. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=411183 User gnorton@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=411183#c66 --- Comment #66 from Geoff Norton 2008-08-03 13:13:26 MDT --- I'll test the latest packages later today / tomorrow. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=411183 User gnorton@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=411183#c68 Geoff Norton changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEEDINFO |ASSIGNED Info Provider|gnorton@novell.com | --- Comment #68 from Geoff Norton 2008-08-04 13:17:20 MDT --- The new packages look good to me. Decent x11perf for text XAA enabled by default and XV in overlay working fine. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=411183 User sndirsch@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=411183#c71 Stefan Dirsch changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|ASSIGNED |RESOLVED Resolution| |FIXED --- Comment #71 from Stefan Dirsch 2008-08-05 03:31:27 MDT --- Thanks, Anja! patchinfo file contains now the correct SWAMPID. Closing as fixed. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=411183 User toharris@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=411183#c73 Todd Harris changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |toharris@novell.com --- Comment #73 from Todd Harris 2008-08-07 07:40:13 MDT --- Since there are folks on this bug using a GM965 intel chip, do you notice with Fusion enabled and more than a few windows open that desktop effects slows down to about 5fps (scale, cube, window switching)? Programs such as GW and Firefox seem to exacerbate the issue. Not sure if it is a memory leak or something. But I'm waiting for the driver fix that comes across that gives me a 20-30% performance boost. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=411183 User sndirsch@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=411183#c75 Stefan Dirsch changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|REOPENED |RESOLVED Resolution| |FIXED --- Comment #75 from Stefan Dirsch 2008-08-14 20:04:54 MDT --- Timothy, obviously you didn't get the idea here. Case 1 was the the version with EXA as default also known as overall performance regression. Case 2 is the switch back to XAA as default + at least one fix for Xvideo playback, when XAA is used. I'm sure there are still issues left, but it's no longer a regression compared to the initial version we had on DVD (xorg-x11-driver-video-7.3-138.2). If you prefer EXA feel free to use it. Add 'Option "AccelMethod" "EXA"' to 'Section "Device"' of your /etc/X11/xorg.conf. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=411183 User tsipple@yahoo.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=411183#c77 --- Comment #77 from Timothy Sipples 2008-08-18 09:49:32 MDT --- Sorry, just to be clear: in .2 *and* .3, there is no yellow cast. With .5, you did something else (besides just go back to XAA), and you've got a regression as a result. It's 100% reproducible as described. The "at least one fix for Xvideo" is evidently the problem, so good to hear there is indeed something else that got changed (besides only flipping back to XAA). So it should be relatively easy to diagnose. It doesn't particularly matter (to me) whether you want to shift this to a new bug record or leave it in this one, but let's start here for now since it's a regression. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=411183 User sndirsch@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=411183#c79 Stefan Dirsch changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|REOPENED |NEEDINFO Info Provider| |tsipple@yahoo.com --- Comment #79 from Stefan Dirsch 2008-08-19 14:24:04 MDT ---

I'm going to provide a RPM without this hunk, so you can verify this. It's interesting that nobody else saw this regression on 965GM.

--> http://beta.suse.com/private/sndirsch/bug411183/ Please test and provide feedback. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=411183 User sndirsch@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=411183#c81 --- Comment #81 from Stefan Dirsch 2008-08-26 00:44:14 MDT --- Timothy? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=411183 User sndirsch@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=411183#c83 Stefan Dirsch changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEEDINFO |RESOLVED Info Provider|tsipple@yahoo.com | Resolution| |FIXED --- Comment #83 from Stefan Dirsch 2008-08-29 20:15:18 MDT --- 6 is now the same compared the source code as .3. Just the option handling for textured video has been added. But still the same defaults (disabled for XAA). I can't explain the different behaviour. Please do not reopen the same bug report again. Thanks. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=411183 User gnorton@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=411183#c85 --- Comment #85 from Geoff Norton 2008-08-29 21:02:03 MDT --- (In reply to comment #84 from Timothy Sipples)

(Sigh.) Sentence 1 and sentence 2 cannot both be correct. Adding the "option handling for textured video" has now resulted in a reproducible regression. (And it's actually a bit worse than I originally described. The entire video displays as blue, with no image whatsoever until resized. Then the vastly oversaturated and yellowed image appears in the video.)

Stefan, If this is true, it sounds like he's getting pushed into overlay mode somehow. According to wikipedia this can be a GM960 or a GM965, I'm wondering if we're pushing the 960 into the 965 codepath needlessly? Timothy, Please post your Xorg.log so we can determine the exact chipset you're using. -g -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=411183 User sndirsch@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=411183#c87 --- Comment #87 from Stefan Dirsch 2008-08-29 21:21:03 MDT --- Created an attachment (id=236418) --> (https://bugzilla.novell.com/attachment.cgi?id=236418) xf86-video-intel-TexVideoDefaults.diff The patch between .3 and .5 for your convenience. For a diff between .3 and .6 remove the last hunk. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=411183 User sndirsch@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=411183#c89 --- Comment #89 from Stefan Dirsch 2008-08-29 21:30:55 MDT --- (In reply to comment #85 from Geoff Norton)

If this is true, it sounds like he's getting pushed into overlay mode somehow.

Sure, the same as with the initial driver, where he doesn't see this issue. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=411183 User tsipple@yahoo.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=411183#c91 --- Comment #91 from Timothy Sipples 2008-08-29 22:50:32 MDT --- I should also point out that I've reproduced this problem on a fresh install of OpenSUSE 11.0 using all default settings. So it's a problem an ordinary user is going to bump into, at least on this hardware. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=411183 User tsipple@yahoo.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=411183#c93 --- Comment #93 from Timothy Sipples 2008-08-30 03:01:49 MDT --- Created an attachment (id=236426) --> (https://bugzilla.novell.com/attachment.cgi?id=236426) Xorg.log for tsipple@yahoo with .5 level driver Exhibits the video playback problem -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=411183 User tsipple@yahoo.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=411183#c95 --- Comment #95 from Timothy Sipples 2008-08-30 03:10:44 MDT --- Created an attachment (id=236428) --> (https://bugzilla.novell.com/attachment.cgi?id=236428) Xorg.log for tsipple@yahoo.com with .2 level driver As with .3 level driver, video playback works correctly -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=411183 User tsipple@yahoo.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=411183#c97 --- Comment #97 from Timothy Sipples 2008-08-30 09:40:05 MDT --- Good news. I added that line to the intel driver section of the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file. I tested both .5 and .6 driver levels with TexturedVideo turned on. I confirmed that TexturedVideo was enabled by checking the /var/log/Xorg.0.log file after restart. With that setting, the videos play correctly in .5 and .6, the same result as .2 and .3. Any idea(s) why this setting was disabled by default for this hardware? I wonder if a .7 build with TexturedVideo enabled now makes sense. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=411183 User sndirsch@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=411183#c99 --- Comment #99 from Stefan Dirsch 2008-08-30 09:56:54 MDT --- TexturedVideo/XAA was also much slower than Overlay/XAA for me on 965GM. I don't think we can fix the issues for everybody. But now you can at least select between TexturedVideo and Overlay, no matter if you prefer XAA or EXA. I hope you can live with that. Thanks. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=411183 User tsipple@yahoo.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=411183#c101 --- Comment #101 from Timothy Sipples 2008-08-30 10:43:06 MDT --- Just reading here: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-684770.html So, if all that's correct, XAA/TexturedVideo works great without Compiz. So maybe what we're looking at to make things work reasonably well out of the box (with the current driver states) are these sets of conservative defaults: Compiz off, XAA on, TexturedVideo on, Xv on Compiz on, XAA on, TexturedVideo off, Xv off Is this even possible, to have different defaults depending on Compiz? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=411183 User sndirsch@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=411183#c103 --- Comment #103 from Stefan Dirsch 2008-08-30 12:26:24 MDT --- (In reply to comment #101 from Timothy Sipples)

Just reading here:

http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-684770.html

So, if all that's correct, XAA/TexturedVideo works great without Compiz. So maybe what we're looking at to make things work reasonably well out of the box (with the current driver states) are these sets of conservative defaults:

Compiz off, XAA on, TexturedVideo on, Xv on Compiz on, XAA on, TexturedVideo off, Xv off

Not sure what you mean with Xv. Overlay? When compiz on, both off?!?

Is this even possible, to have different defaults depending on Compiz?

Unfortunately that's not possible. compiz is an X11 application running on top of the Xserver. TexturedVideo a driver option, which you can't change after Xserver has been started and you suddenly decided to start or terminate compiz now. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=411183 User gnorton@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=411183#c105 --- Comment #105 from Geoff Norton 2008-08-30 18:52:53 MDT --- (In reply to comment #104 from Timothy Sipples)

Case 2 (proposed): Compiz works but slower (and it's an optional feature anyway, both for installation and then for activation, and doesn't work on all hardware anyway), and video playback works. Maybe document this in the release notes, similar to what was done in OpenSUSE 10.3 with Intel ipw/iwl wireless.

What you're suggesting is that the performance of an eye candy feature (but apparently not the function of it) takes precedence over the actual functioning of a very basic capability, playing back any motion video, right? I think that's...strange. And most Compiz users aren't going to be happy watching blue boxes instead of videos either, so it isn't just about Compiz.

EXA does not degrade performance just when compiz was running. Please read the entire bug and the other related bugs this has been covered ad nauseum. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=411183 User gnorton@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=411183#c107 --- Comment #107 from Geoff Norton 2008-08-30 19:23:19 MDT ---

What you're suggesting is that the performance of an eye candy feature (but apparently not the function of it) takes precedence over the actual functioning of a very basic capability, playing back any motion video, right?

What "performance of an eye candy feature" are you refering to then? Please refer to Stefans post for next steps if you wish to continue discussing this issue in #98, #99, #102 -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=411183 User tsipple@yahoo.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=411183#c109 --- Comment #109 from Timothy Sipples 2008-08-30 22:03:20 MDT --- I don't like the facts any better than you do. This is a frustrating bug (now family of bugs, it seems), so let's all calm down and try to figure out what's going on if possible. There are conflicting reports on the TexturedVideo setting from what I can Google. It looks like on Raghu's hardware (up in the early comments in this bug report) that XAA+TexturedVideo inhibits video playback and webcam, while on a Dell XPS M1330 (and some other hardware if Google is any guide) it's the opposite. And there are Compiz complications in addition. Fun times. :-( This all suggests there are deeper, festering problems in the driver. And maybe the ultimate answer is a stable, functioning EXA driver, but that could be a while. All very depressing, actually. :-( Is there another bug record where this TexturedVideo issue is getting tracked, either here at Novell Bugzilla (preferably, since I can test this on openSUSE builds more easily) or at Freedesktop.org? I'll try chasing it in that alternate venue and see if I can figure out what's going on, at least with this hardware. Also, is there an "official" (not really, but you know what I mean) openSUSE 11.1ish (?) EXA driver somewhere that I can start testing? One thought is that this issue may merit mention in the release notes. Thanks. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.