On Wed, Feb 08, 2006 at 07:13:37AM +0100, Andreas Jaeger wrote:

houghi writes:

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I am just looking around on openSUSE.org and came across http://en.opensuse.org/Package_Wishlist and I see almost no change in things that have been requested months ago.

Is anybody looking at these pages and more importantly, is anybody taking action around these pages?

I looked at it some time ago and will look again after 10.1 is out,

OK, good. Perhaps not all will go onto SUSE and these could be things for the build server. At least as it is not forgotten it is good. houghi -- WARNING TO ALL PERSONNEL: Firings will continue until morale improves.

On Sat, Feb 11, 2006 at 04:05:36PM +0100, Andreas Jaeger wrote:

I just went over the list and commented a few entries:

Thanks.

What puzzled me were a number of users asking for features that we already have in 10.0 ;-)

I have not checked them all. (Well, I have not checked any of them) It could be that they are not on the 5 CD set. People look at it and can't see it. Could also be that they don't see it, because it is not installed by default. If they are available, they could be removed, limiting te list. Perhaps also nice would be to look if any of them are installable via additional repo's and point there.

Lots of the other stuff is something for the build server - and some parts are enhancements for 10.2 which I'll look later at again,

I suppose indeed most could be for the build server. houghi -- Losing your drivers' license is just God's way of saying "BOOGA, BOOGA!"

David, First, the usual admonition: Don't hijack existing threads to start new topics. On Saturday 11 February 2006 08:05, David Wright wrote:

The main window of YAST always opens at a reasonable size, but windows like YOU open up around 2500 pixels wide on my desktop ...

Likewise Add/Remove Software opens maximised, ...

Most of the other windows default to about 2/3rds the width of my desktop (2560 pixels).

Is there any plan to get YAST to remember window sizes, or at least use sensible defaults on large desktops? (I'm using the dual head and a 20.1" widescreen on 10.0, the 10.1 machine beta is currently on a single 17" TFT display machine.)

You don't say which desktop / window manager you're using, but if it's KDE, then there exists a very sophisticated mechanism for controlling size and placement of different application's windows. I use it a lot 'cause I'm a lot anal. This capability can be accessed through the KDE Control Center, but the best way to get started using it is to use the "Special Windows Settings..." command in the "Advanced" submenu of the window control menu of the window you want to control. (Right click in the window title bar or type ALT-SPACE to activate the window control menu.)

Dave

Randall Schulz

On Sat, Feb 11, 2006 at 06:22:16PM +0100, David Wright wrote:

Am Samstag, 11. Februar 2006 17:21 schrieb Randall R Schulz:

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David,

First, the usual admonition: Don't hijack existing threads to start new topics.

Not sure what you mean? I started from an empty email with a new title...

From the headers of the mail you send: References: <20060208034126.GA13040@penne> +<20060211152954.GA8847@penne>

Don't believe me, check it out for yourself. houghi -- Love is sentimental measles.

Randall R Schulz wrote:

You used "reply" to start a new topic just so you wouldn't have to enter the list address. Don't do that. Make an address book entry to save you from having to type the list address and use the "New message" command when you're not actually replying to an existing message.

in usual mail manager, the headers are show, at least you can see on top of the mails you receive from the list the e-mail of the list itself. clic on it and you should be asked if you wan to write to the list. do. like this you start a new thread with the minimum hassle jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://dodin.org/galerie_photo_web/expo/index.html http://lucien.dodin.net http://fr.susewiki.org/index.php?title=Gérer_ses_photos

Andreas Jaeger wrote:

houghi writes:

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houghi writes:

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I am just looking around on openSUSE.org and came across http://en.opensuse.org/Package_Wishlist and I see almost no change in things that have been requested months ago.

Is anybody looking at these pages and more importantly, is anybody taking action around these pages? I looked at it some time ago and will look again after 10.1 is out, OK, good. Perhaps not all will go onto SUSE and these could be things for

On Wed, Feb 08, 2006 at 07:13:37AM +0100, Andreas Jaeger wrote: the build server. At least as it is not forgotten it is good.

I just went over the list and commented a few entries: * We use already JPackage * NetBeans 5.0 is now in FACTORY * Winetools is in FACTORY * Tango_Desktop: The icons are part of 10.1 * XGL: Is now in FACTORY * MozillaThunderbirds-translation: Is in FACTORY * postfix with mysql support: Part of 10.0 already AFAIK (postfix-mysql) * RubyGems: Is now in FACTORY * Adobe ICC Profiles: Is now in FACTORY-E * DejaVu: Those fonts are planned to get added during the next two weeks.

What puzzled me were a number of users asking for features that we already have in 10.0 ;-)

Lots of the other stuff is something for the build server - and some parts are enhancements for 10.2 which I'll look later at again,

I added two things to the eyecandy section of the wishlist (QTCurve and KBFX). Maybe these are some things to think about. Greetings Jens Siebert

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I added two things to the eyecandy section of the wishlist (QTCurve and KBFX). Maybe these are some things to think about.

http://linux01.gwdg.de/~pbleser/rpm-navigation.php?cat=Themes/qtcurve http://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/misc/suser-guru/rpm/packages/Themes/qtcurve/

http://linux01.gwdg.de/~pbleser/rpm-navigation.php?cat=Themes-KDE3/kbfx http://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/misc/suser-guru/rpm/packages/Themes-KDE3/kbfx/ (it's not the latest though, I should do an update)

Hi Pascal, I already use your packages. I thought about integration of these tools into FACTORY for getting some nice eyecandy into Suse KDE. Suse's default KDE layout hasn't seen a lot of change in the last time if I remember right. I think it's time for some change. I you look at the latest Gnome screenshots of Suse 10.1 you'll see that Gnome also get's an update of it's default layout. So why not do the same for KDE? Greetings Jens Siebert

On Sat, Feb 11, 2006 at 05:09:28PM +0100, Marcus Rueckert wrote:

On 2006-02-11 16:05:36 +0100, Andreas Jaeger wrote:

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* RubyGems: Is now in FACTORY

was already part of 10.0 iirc.

Indeed: ---> ./CD1/suse/i586/rubygems-0.8.11-5.i586.rpm ---> ./CD1/suse/ppc/rubygems-0.8.11-5.ppc.rpm ---> ./CD1/suse/src/rubygems-0.8.11-5.src.rpm ---> ./CD1/suse/x86_64/rubygems-0.8.11-5.x86_64.rpm houghi -- Fertility is hereditary. If your parents didn't have any children, neither will you.

On Saturday 11 February 2006 16:05, Andreas Jaeger wrote:

houghi writes:

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On Wed, Feb 08, 2006 at 07:13:37AM +0100, Andreas Jaeger wrote:

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houghi writes:

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I am just looking around on openSUSE.org and came across http://en.opensuse.org/Package_Wishlist and I see almost no change in things that have been requested months ago.

Is anybody looking at these pages and more importantly, is anybody taking action around these pages?

I looked at it some time ago and will look again after 10.1 is out,

OK, good. Perhaps not all will go onto SUSE and these could be things for the build server. At least as it is not forgotten it is good.

I just went over the list and commented a few entries:

Can I ask to give a second try to the Productivity/KKBSwitch entry? This tiny program is really handy for multilingual users, and it's quite annoying to compile it manually. -- Best regards, Alexander.

On Sat, 11 Feb 2006 you said:

I just went over the list and commented a few entries: [..] * postfix with mysql support: Part of 10.0 already AFAIK (postfix-mysql)

Can't find this anywhere, not in Yast, or with pin. Also vsftpd you commented on is *not* built with SSL (see my own comment). Theo -- Theo v. Werkhoven Registered Linux user# 99872 http://counter.li.org Voorhout ICQ: 277217131 ICBM 52 13 26N , 4 29 47E. Jabber: muadib@jabber.xs4all.nl Voor GNUpg/pgp zie headers.

On Wed, 15 Feb 2006 you said:

Op woensdag 15 februari 2006 23:25, schreef Theo v. Werkhoven:

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On Sat, 11 Feb 2006 you said:

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I just went over the list and commented a few entries:

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* postfix with mysql support: Part of 10.0 already AFAIK   (postfix-mysql)

Can't find this anywhere, not in Yast, or with pin.

It's on the server: opensuse/distribution/SL-10.0-OSS/inst-source/suse/i586/postfix-mysql-2.2.5-5.i586.rpm

Thus *not* part of SUSE10.0, and my additions to the wishlist were correct to begin with. Thanks anyway. Theo -- Theo v. Werkhoven Registered Linux user# 99872 http://counter.li.org Voorhout ICQ: 277217131 ICBM 52 13 26N , 4 29 47E. Jabber: muadib@jabber.xs4all.nl Voor GNUpg/pgp zie headers.

On Thu, 16 Feb 2006 you said:

Theo v. Werkhoven schrieb:

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On Wed, 15 Feb 2006 you said:

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It's on the server: opensuse/distribution/SL-10.0-OSS/inst-source/suse/i586/postfix-mysql-2.2.5-5.i586.rpm

Thus *not* part of SUSE10.0, and my additions to the wishlist were correct to begin with.

zgrep postfix-mysql /media/suse10dvd/INDEX.gz ./DVD1/suse/i586/postfix-mysql-2.2.5-5.i586.rpm ./DVD1/suse/x86_64/postfix-mysql-2.2.5-5.x86_64.rpm

So it *is* on the SUSE Linux 10.0 DVD.

So it seems. Thanks for enlighting me. But then I wonder why pin or a search in yast didn't reveal this. I'v installed from CDs btw, no DVD player on that machine, but I would presume that ARCHIVES.gz I copied from CD1 should list all the packages. Theo -- Theo v. Werkhoven Registered Linux user# 99872 http://counter.li.org Voorhout ICQ: 277217131 ICBM 52 13 26N , 4 29 47E. Jabber: muadib@jabber.xs4all.nl Voor GNUpg/pgp zie headers.

On Thu, 16 Feb 2006 you said:

Theo v. Werkhoven wrote:

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I'v installed from CDs btw, no DVD player on that machine, but I would presume that ARCHIVES.gz I copied from CD1 should list all the packages.

It lists all packages (and their contents - if you're just looking for a particular package name INDEX.gz is much easier to read) on the CDs. The .gz files on the DVD list the contents of the DVD, and the files from the ftp site list the contents of the ftp site

^L as xtal, tnx Theo -- Theo v. Werkhoven Registered Linux user# 99872 http://counter.li.org Voorhout ICQ: 277217131 ICBM 52 13 26N , 4 29 47E. Jabber: muadib@jabber.xs4all.nl Voor GNUpg/pgp zie headers.

On Thu, 16 Feb 2006 you said:

Theo v. Werkhoven schrieb:

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On Thu, 16 Feb 2006 you said: [..]

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So it *is* on the SUSE Linux 10.0 DVD.

So it seems. Thanks for enlighting me. But then I wonder why pin or a search in yast didn't reveal this. I'v installed from CDs btw, no DVD player on that machine, but I would presume that ARCHIVES.gz I copied from CD1 should list all the packages.

Well, 5 CDs with 650 MB each can't hold as much software as a dual layer DVD with 8500 MB. So some of the packages are only on DVD. YaST and pin didn't show you these packages because you can't install them from the CDs. If you change your installation source to DVD or any of the public SUSE Linux 10.0 ftp servers, postfix-mysql will show up in YaST.

Ok, that was the "problem" then. Thanks all that replied. Theo -- Theo v. Werkhoven Registered Linux user# 99872 http://counter.li.org Voorhout ICQ: 277217131 ICBM 52 13 26N , 4 29 47E. Jabber: muadib@jabber.xs4all.nl Voor GNUpg/pgp zie headers.

On Wed, Feb 15, 2006 at 11:25:58PM +0100, Theo v. Werkhoven wrote:

On Sat, 11 Feb 2006 you said:

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I just went over the list and commented a few entries: [..] * postfix with mysql support: Part of 10.0 already AFAIK (postfix-mysql)

Can't find this anywhere, not in Yast, or with pin. Also vsftpd you commented on is *not* built with SSL (see my own comment).

I have opened a bugreport for you, 151453. Why didnt you? Ciao, Marcus

On Thu, Feb 16, 2006 at 08:46:54PM +0100, Theo v. Werkhoven wrote:

Who am I to tell SUSE that _not_ building a packages X with a capability Y is a bug? I'm just the messenger here.

You are a user. Worst case cenario: Bug is closed because they do not think it is a bug. As long as you do not swamp them with non-bugs, I would think it will actually help. An other explanation could be: fine, you are the messanger, please deliver the message in the correct place. ;-) houghi -- Nutze die zeit. Sie ist das Kostbarste was wir haben, denn es ist unwiederbringliche Lebenszeit. Leben ist aber mehr als Wert und Arbeit, und das Sein wichtiger als das tun. Johannes Müller-Elmau