April 2009 - openSUSE Users - openSUSE Mailing Lists

[opensuse] kde3 is gone... for 11.2
by jdd 02 Sep '09

02 Sep '09

I just notice that there will be nomore kde3 for the upcomming openSUSE 11.2. I don't want to grin. Not necessary. I just wanted to ask here what do you have in kde3.5 and don't find in kde4 and you would like to have. Not to say you will have it but to give info to devs... I stopped using kde4 on 11.1 for problems in the config panel and lack of understanding of the new windows layout. I expect this to be solved before next release; what do you think? be constructive :-) jdd NB: I miss the kweather applet, but it don't work neither in kde 3.5 :-( -- http://www.dodin.net http://valerie.dodin.org http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-eic8MSSfM http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1412160445 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] curl error-connection time out
by Teruel de Campo MD 29 Jul '09

29 Jul '09

Today I finally installing opensuse 11.1 kde 4.2 in all machines. Q. Using yast software manager to update the system very often I get a curl error and a connection time out. I retry and everything is OK. Everything is working OK but I had to be behind the screen to interact all the time with this connection time outs. I do not remember anything like that previously. It may be the server are very busy. Any comments. -=terry=- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] Annoying Desktop behaviour of Programmes
by LLLActive＠GMX.Net 27 Jul '09

27 Jul '09

Hi all, what is beginning to be quite annoying is working with different Desktops. I have different working groups organised on a desktop each. I often have OpenOffice Writer, Calc and Firefox open on various desktops. When I open up a link on Desktop 1 in Thunderbird, a window opens on the latest FireFox I used prevously; the one on the other desktop I used last. I have to hunt down in which desktop it opened by going to each desktop and activate it. This also happens when I open an OpenOffice document or calc file with konqueror. Closing all apps on the desktops before going to another desktop defeats the purpose of having different desktops - or have I missed the rational behind different desktops. Is it a bug or a feature? :-( All -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse] New ATI driver released... And works! -- NOT!
by David C. Rankin 02 Jul '09

02 Jul '09

Dave Plater wrote: > David C. Rankin wrote: >> >> Dave, >> >> Your english was fine, I was just suffering from a momentary cranal-rectal >> inversion :-( >> >> >> > By the way, Peter didn't seem to have solved his problem which I think > may be due to his not having the devel versions installed. I have no > experience with ATI only nvidia, in fact from what I've seen on this > list I don't want to have any ATI experience. Does the installation of > his driver require the development versions to be installed? Maybe you > can put him on the right track. > Regards > Dave P > > > Dave, The devel versions shouldn't be required. When I checked my 11.0 version, all I have is compat-libstdc++-5.0.7-121.1 (which I understand is libstdc++33 in 11.1), but: [01:44 alchemy:/srv/www/htdocs/wordpress] # rpm -qa | grep libstdc++ compat-libstdc++-5.0.7-121.1 ------------- I do have other unrelated devel packages installed: libstdc++44-4.4.0_20090316-2.1 libstdc++43-devel-4.3.3_20090126-2.3 libstdc++43-doc-4.3.3_20090316-2.1 libstdc++44-32bit-4.4.0_20090316-2.1 libstdc++-devel-4.3-39.1 but nothing on the system related to libstdc++.so.5 [02:16 alchemy:/srv/www/htdocs/wordpress] # rpm -q --whatprovides libstdc++.so.5 compat-libstdc++-5.0.7-121.1 I have never had a compile problem with the ATI driver related to a missing library. ATI botched a couple of driver releases that not even Stefan could compile for 11.1. The key here I think is 11.1. ATI hasn't released a driver to date that will work with my hardware and 11.1. Anders and others are doing OK with the 9-3 release (although I suspect if they compare the 11.1 fglrx driver performance to that of the Sept. 08 driver running on 11.0 or 10.3 they would be wildly disappointed by the comparison.) The problem is there is no "measuring stick" or a good performing driver that will compile against 11.1. I know in my experience with the 8-10, 8-11, 8-12, and 9-1 fglrx drivers, my graphics performance on my laptop with an X1200/x1300 chipset all the foregoing drivers suffer greater than a 40% performance loss compared against the 8-9 driver. I would like to see the test results of others who think the 9-3 driver is doing OK, comparing (1) the glxgears frame rates w/default window size, and (2) the overall feel and responsiveness of the graphics subsystem against their same hardware running 11.0 or 10.3 with the 8-9 driver. I would be willing to wager their would be a bunch of bruised chins from all the "jaw dropping" that would occur when the performance penalty of the recent ATI drivers is actually measured in black-and-white. It's almost impossible to tell how much of a performance hit you have taken just by looking at the screen and saying "yes, it looks OK" without doing an actual comparison. As for Peter, the only thing I can think of is just to plug libstdc++.so.5 into webpin on 11.1 and see what packages come back and then install those packages to get around his compile problem. The search on 11.1 says the package is provided by the following. Since I don't run 11.1 (primarily due to the ATI issue (to be fair other things as well)), I haven't had to beat my head into the wall over this yet, but if it were me, I would just go down the list of the 1-click installs below, find my architecture and install every damn one of them that matched until I had a usable libstdc++.so.5 on my system to compile against: Results from http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.1/repo/oss/ libstdc++33 (3.3.3) The standard C++ shared library contains /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.5 1-click: http://api.opensuse-community.org/searchservice//YMPs/openSUSE_111/3ca198ef… libstdc++33-32bit (3.3.3) The standard C++ shared library contains /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.5 Results from http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/devel:/gcc/openSUSE_11.1 1-click: http://api.opensuse-community.org/searchservice//YMPs/openSUSE_111/19e75469… libstdc++33 (3.3.3) The standard C++ shared library contains /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.5 1-click: http://api.opensuse-community.org/searchservice//YMPs/openSUSE_111/f12e9978… libstdc++33-32bit (3.3.3) The standard C++ shared library contains /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.5 1-click: http://api.opensuse-community.org/searchservice//YMPs/openSUSE_111/c7de6099… libstdc++33-64bit (3.3.3) The standard C++ shared library contains /usr/lib64/libstdc++.so.5 1-click: http://api.opensuse-community.org/searchservice//YMPs/openSUSE_111/8d311289… And if that didn't work, I'd just grab a copy from 11.0 and see if that would work. Looking closer, the libstdc++.so.5 isn't even a real file, on 11.0 it is just sym linked against libstdc++.so.5.0.7: 02:18 alchemy:/srv/www/htdocs/wordpress] # l /usr/lib64/libstdc++.so.5 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 18 2008-07-26 17:47 /usr/lib64/libstdc++.so.5 -> libstdc++.so.5.0.7* [02:37 alchemy:/srv/www/htdocs/wordpress] # l /usr/lib64/libstdc++.so.5.0.7 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 855856 2008-06-06 16:45 /usr/lib64/libstdc++.so.5.0.7* Hell, Peter's problem may be as simple as just recreating the sym link. Peter, give this a try [as root]: [[ -f /usr/lib64/libstdc++.so.5.0.7 ]] && ln -s /usr/lib64/libstdc++.so.5.0.7 /usr/lib64/libstdc++.so.5 -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] Why Not Fix the Easy Bugs??
by David C. Rankin 10 Jun '09

10 Jun '09

Listmates, I'm a bit troubled by the current "Sweep the bug under the rug" philosophy I am seeing all too often with bugzilla. Latest example is: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=488463 Why not fix the easy ones? The point/question being, "What justifies leaving openSuSE broken when the fix is simple?" It has always been "attention to detail" that has set SuSE/openSuSE apart, why change course? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] Two problems remaining after otherwise successful OS upgrade
by Stan Goodman 03 Jun '09

03 Jun '09

After I upgraded from v10.3 to v11.1, a number of problems remained, most of which I have succeeded in clearing. Three remain and are driving me up the wall. I would be grateful for any help in dealing with them too: 1) Several apps did not come across when I copied the /home directory to the new installation, because not all their elements are contained in that directory. I have fixed all but two, XMMS and RealPlayer. I'm reasonable confident that I simply need to reinstall them from scratch, but YaST doesn't work. It comes up and lets me search for apps by name, but then craches immediately as soon as I ask for installation of a selected application. I have no idea where to look for the root of this problem. 2) The more bizarre problem lies in the browsers (plural). I can access every website I have tried, except one, which is my own <http://hashkedim.com>. When I try to access it with EITHER Firefox or Konqueror, I get an error message telling me that it is impossible to connect. Going back to v10.3, this problem doesn't exist (it never did appear there). It also doesn't exist in the new v11.1 installation if I add the "www" - <http://www.hashkedim.com>. I would like to understand why two different browsers need the "www" in v11.1 but not in v10.3, but ONLY in this one URL. Evidently the difference doesn't lie in either of the settings of the browsers or in the site itself; then where? -- Stan Goodman Qiryat Tiv'on Israel -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] Re: Why Not Fix the Easy Bugs??
by jdd 03 Jun '09

03 Jun '09

Sven Burmeister a écrit : > I know, as I wrote, it is not bound to this thread, just a question on what > KDE3 people expect if they use the 11.2 DVD, because since version 4 is higher > than 4 they will get an update of their KDE3 to 4. > do you know you gives a great info, here? * kde3 is dropped - so we should hope kde4 to be fixed (unusable right now) * openSUSE will make possible the update kde3->kde4. Such thing was not done previously right? jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://valerie.dodin.org http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-eic8MSSfM http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1412160445 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] Dependency Hell.....again.
by Fred A. Miller 03 Jun '09

03 Jun '09

For over 2 weeks now, there's been an OpenOffice update, but due to dependencies, I can't get it. Now, since yesterday, there's a new kernel, (I need the nVidia version) but because of a dependency, which isn't listed, I can't get that either. Can we assume someone is going to fix all the dependency issues.....soon?! Fred -- The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money. - Margaret Thatcher -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] zypper - ignore vendors & download first
by Sylvester Lykkehus 27 May '09

27 May '09

Hi list, I've skipped using the built in software management in openSUSE for the past 3-4 releases, as I have been using the 'smart package manager' to do my updates and even dist upgrades. I have had my eyes on libzypp for a while, for it's great performance compared to smart. I have 2 questions for libzypp and the zypper commandline tool: 1. Is there any way to completely and forcefully disable the vendor check ? I now that I can add trusted vendors to the list, but that is not my objective. I rely on the repo priority, and do not wish to use the vendor check feature of libzypp. 2. 'Download first - install after' behavior. I remember someone mentioning a 'secret' unsupported option or configuration for zypp to start installation, only after/if all packages have been downloaded first. I just don't remember what it was. Kind regards Sylvester Lykkehus -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] keep alive SSH tunnel after resume
by Paul Korossy 13 May '09

13 May '09

Hi, I'm using port forwarding via SSH tunnel, but if I suspend my machine, the connection hangs after resuming, and I have to rerun the ssh-command on console every time. How can I rebuild the connection automatically after resuming? Thanks, Paul -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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