[opensuse] zypper - ignore vendors & download first
Hi list, I've skipped using the built in software management in openSUSE for the past 3-4 releases, as I have been using the 'smart package manager' to do my updates and even dist upgrades. I have had my eyes on libzypp for a while, for it's great performance compared to smart. I have 2 questions for libzypp and the zypper commandline tool: 1. Is there any way to completely and forcefully disable the vendor check ? I now that I can add trusted vendors to the list, but that is not my objective. I rely on the repo priority, and do not wish to use the vendor check feature of libzypp. 2. 'Download first - install after' behavior. I remember someone mentioning a 'secret' unsupported option or configuration for zypp to start installation, only after/if all packages have been downloaded first. I just don't remember what it was. Kind regards Sylvester Lykkehus -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Sylvester Lykkehus wrote:
Hi list,
I've skipped using the built in software management in openSUSE for the past 3-4 releases, as I have been using the 'smart package manager' to do my updates and even dist upgrades.
I have had my eyes on libzypp for a while, for it's great performance compared to smart.
I have 2 questions for libzypp and the zypper commandline tool:
1. Is there any way to completely and forcefully disable the vendor check ? I now that I can add trusted vendors to the list, but that is not my objective. I rely on the repo priority, and do not wish to use the vendor check feature of libzypp.
2. 'Download first - install after' behavior. I remember someone mentioning a 'secret' unsupported option or configuration for zypp to start installation, only after/if all packages have been downloaded first. I just don't remember what it was.
I think, that you think :) my blog entry - http://lizards.opensuse.org/2008/10/30/how-survive-zypper-dup-on-system-with...
Kind regards Sylvester Lykkehus
-- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Hi, Sylvester Lykkehus wrote:
Hi list,
I've skipped using the built in software management in openSUSE for the past 3-4 releases, as I have been using the 'smart package manager' to do my updates and even dist upgrades.
I have had my eyes on libzypp for a while, for it's great performance compared to smart.
Glad to read this :O)
I have 2 questions for libzypp and the zypper commandline tool:
1. Is there any way to completely and forcefully disable the vendor check ? I now that I can add trusted vendors to the list, but that is not my objective. I rely on the repo priority, and do not wish to use the vendor check feature of libzypp.
None that i know of. CCing to zypp-devel mailing list.
2. 'Download first - install after' behavior. I remember someone mentioning a 'secret' unsupported option or configuration for zypp to start installation, only after/if all packages have been downloaded first. I just don't remember what it was.
--dry-run with keeppackages turned on. It wasn't really secret, but i admit even i (one of zypp(er) developers) did not get the idea of using it for this purpose :O) Josef did. He already posted the link in the other mail, but here it is again: http://lizards.opensuse.org/2008/10/30/how-survive-zypper-dup-on-system-with... -- cheers, jano Ján Kupec YaST team ---------------------------------------------------------(PGP)--- Key ID: 637EE901 Fingerprint: 93B9 C79B 2D20 51C3 800B E09B 8048 46A6 637E E901 ---------------------------------------------------------(IRC)--- Server: irc.freenode.net Nick: jniq Channels: #zypp #yast #suse #susecz ---------------------------------------------------------(EOF)---
On Friday 22 May 2009 18:03:29 Jano Kupec wrote:
I have 2 questions for libzypp and the zypper commandline tool:
1. Is there any way to completely and forcefully disable the vendor check ? I now that I can add trusted vendors to the list, but that is not my objective. I rely on the repo priority, and do not wish to use the vendor check feature of libzypp.
None that i know of. CCing to zypp-devel mailing list.
We can have a zypp.conf option for this. That should not be a big deal.
2. 'Download first - install after' behavior. I remember someone mentioning a 'secret' unsupported option or configuration for zypp to start installation, only after/if all packages have been downloaded first. I just don't remember what it was.
We will have better support for this in the next release. 'Download first' or 'Download only' will be doable without a bunch of cryptic options. -- cu, Michael Andres +------------------------------------------------------------------+ Key fingerprint = 2DFA 5D73 18B1 E7EF A862 27AC 3FB8 9E3A 27C6 B0E4 +------------------------------------------------------------------+ Michael Andres YaST Development ma@novell.com SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nuernberg) Maxfeldstrasse 5, D-90409 Nuernberg, Germany, ++49 (0)911 - 740 53-0 +------------------------------------------------------------------+ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Monday 25 May 2009 10:23:59 Michael Andres wrote:
I have 2 questions for libzypp and the zypper commandline tool:
1. Is there any way to completely and forcefully disable the vendor check ? I now that I can add trusted vendors to the list, but that is not my objective. I rely on the repo priority, and do not wish to use the vendor check feature of libzypp.
None that i know of. CCing to zypp-devel mailing list.
We can have a zypp.conf option for this. That should not be a big deal.
JFYI: Will be available in libzypp-6.6.0. ## ## EXPERTS ONLY: Per default the solver will not replace packages of ## different vendors, unless you explicitly ask to do so. Setting this ## option to TRUE will disable this vendor check (unless the application ## explicitly re-enables it). Packages will then be considered based on ## repository priority and version only. This may easily damage your system. ## ## CHANGING THE DEFAULT IS NOT RECOMMENDED. ## ## Valid values: boolean ## Default value: false ## # solver.allowVendorChange = false -- cu, Michael Andres +------------------------------------------------------------------+ Key fingerprint = 2DFA 5D73 18B1 E7EF A862 27AC 3FB8 9E3A 27C6 B0E4 +------------------------------------------------------------------+ Michael Andres YaST Development ma@novell.com SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nuernberg) Maxfeldstrasse 5, D-90409 Nuernberg, Germany, ++49 (0)911 - 740 53-0 +------------------------------------------------------------------+ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Wed, 27 May 2009 16:49:11 +0200, Michael Andres
On Monday 25 May 2009 10:23:59 Michael Andres wrote:
I have 2 questions for libzypp and the zypper commandline tool:
1. Is there any way to completely and forcefully disable the vendor check ? I now that I can add trusted vendors to the list, but that is not my objective. I rely on the repo priority, and do not wish to use the vendor check feature of libzypp.
None that i know of. CCing to zypp-devel mailing list.
We can have a zypp.conf option for this. That should not be a big deal.
JFYI: Will be available in libzypp-6.6.0.
## ## EXPERTS ONLY: Per default the solver will not replace packages of ## different vendors, unless you explicitly ask to do so. Setting this ## option to TRUE will disable this vendor check (unless the application ## explicitly re-enables it). Packages will then be considered based on ## repository priority and version only. This may easily damage your system. ## ## CHANGING THE DEFAULT IS NOT RECOMMENDED. ## ## Valid values: boolean ## Default value: false ## # solver.allowVendorChange = false
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Ah, this is great! I have been wanting this for so long. I should have spoken earlier :-) Thanks for the replies, and the enlightening thread on zypp-devel list.
cu, Michael Andres
Kind regards Sylvester Lykkehus -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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