October 2011 - openSUSE Project - openSUSE Mailing Lists

[opensuse-project] Re: [opensuse-factory] The release notes/product highlights for 12.1
by Robert Schweikert 27 Oct '11

27 Oct '11

On 10/25/2011 10:47 AM, Claudio Freire wrote: > On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 6:37 AM, Will Stephenson<wstephenson(a)suse.de> wrote: >> Finally, if I may suggest a more useful way to please the diehards while >> making openSUSE unique: just port KDE 3 kdesktop and kicker to KDE 4, provide >> it as an alternate KDE 4 desktop shell in KDE:Extra. > > +1 > > I think all this effort would be better spent finalizing the missing > functionality of KDE4 apps. > > Like kaffeine, I miss kaffeine3, which was complete, a decent media player. > Kaffeine4 doesn't even have a way to switch subtitles, which is ridiculous. > > All this effort in KDE3 would be better spent in trying to fill those > huge gaps in KDE4 functionality, IMO. Remember, this is a community and a community project, not a company. Thus, one should be careful about telling people wher they should spend their time and effort. Ilya has decided to maintain KDE3, which I am certain has benefits for some users of openSUSE. Thanks for the effort Ilya. The question we should be discussing here is not how people spent the time they volunteer to the project, rather we should discuss whether KDE3 should be part of the main release and what to say about it in the release notes. IMHO KDE3 should not be part of the main release, for reasons I mentioned earlier in this thread, but should be promoted in the release notes in a "Community" section thereof. Later, Robert -- Robert Schweikert MAY THE SOURCE BE WITH YOU SUSE-IBM Software Integration Center LINUX Tech Lead rjschwei(a)suse.com rschweik(a)ca.ibm.com 781-464-8147 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] gci task: wiki page counter
by Thomas Schmidt 27 Oct '11

27 Oct '11

About the request for implementing a page counter in the wiki from http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:GCI_Tasks#Install_a_page_counter_for_each_p… and http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:What_to_improve_osc11_session#Potential_sol… I wonder if the build-in mediawiki counter isn't sufficient? http://en.opensuse.org/Special:PopularPages The viewcount for each page is also displayed in the footer of the wiki. Greetings -- Thomas Schmidt (tom [at] opensuse.org) openSUSE Boosters Team "Don't Panic", Douglas Adams (11.03.1952 - 11.05.2001) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] The release notes/product highlights for 12.1
by Jos Poortvliet 25 Oct '11

25 Oct '11

Heya all, Your marketeers have been working on the product highlights for 12.1 but especially in the more technical area's we are quite prone to making mistakes and missing Cool Stuff(TM). We therefor would like to ask you to spend a bit of your time on reviewing of and adding to our release notes, in draft on ietherpad: http://ietherpad.com/12-1-release-notes This document is meant as an end-user thing as well as for the press, but YOU don't have to write that part. Any braindump or a simple bullet list - even links to blogs are very much appreciated! You don't only have to write about what you maintain, if there's anything you can add, please do so! Let's make 12.1 rock AND let the world notice that :D Thanks a lot, Your marketing team

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[opensuse-project] Problem when compiling kernel linux-2.6.37.6-0.7
by Rostik 25 Oct '11

25 Oct '11

Problem when compiling kernel linux-2.6.37.6-0.7. Tell me what the problem here. Compile command make rpm MKDIR /usr/src/packages/BUILDROOT/kernel-2.6.37.60.7paeifb_1000-1.i386/lib/firmware/2.6.37.6-0.7-pae-ifb_1000/3com/ make[3]: *** No rule to make target `/usr/src/packages/BUILDROOT/kernel-2.6.37.60.7paeifb_1000-1.i386/lib/firmware/2.6.37.6-0.7-pae-ifb_1000/./', needed by `/usr/src/packages/BUILDROOT/kernel-2.6.37.60.7paeifb_1000-1.i386/lib/firmware/2.6.37.6-0.7-pae-ifb_1000/atmsar11.fw'. Stop. make[3]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs.... MKDIR /usr/src/packages/BUILDROOT/kernel-2.6.37.60.7paeifb_1000-1.i386/lib/firmware/2.6.37.6-0.7-pae-ifb_1000/acenic/ MKDIR /usr/src/packages/BUILDROOT/kernel-2.6.37.60.7paeifb_1000-1.i386/lib/firmware/2.6.37.6-0.7-pae-ifb_1000/adaptec/ make[2]: *** [_modinst_post] Error 2 error: Bad exit status from /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.Drmukx (%install) RPM build errors: Bad exit status from /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.Drmukx (%install) make[1]: *** [rpm] Error 1 make: *** [rpm] Error 2 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Need to improve update
by Robert Schweikert 22 Oct '11

22 Oct '11

Hi, Today at the project meeting we had an initial discussion on one of the items from the "What we need to improve" session at OSC 11. We discussed the problem around the number of mailing lists. I tried to capture the highlights of the discussion in the wiki: http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:What_to_improve_osc11_session#Improve_commu… as bullet points. If there is anything I missed or you have ideas in this area that should be captured please feel free to add them to the wiki. The idea is that we do not want to start the discussion from scratch when we pick this topic up again. Also it appears that there might be a need for a volunteer to create a proposal at some point in the future, hopefully not too distant future ;) Later, Robert -- Robert Schweikert MAY THE SOURCE BE WITH YOU SUSE-IBM Software Integration Center LINUX Tech Lead rjschwei(a)suse.com rschweik(a)ca.ibm.com 781-464-8147 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-project] Contributor gifts
by James Mason 21 Oct '11

21 Oct '11

As a contributor, the greatest gift I could imagine right now would be to see this thread stop jacking my inbox. :/

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[opensuse-project] Anfrage zur Aktualisierung
by M.G. 21 Oct '11

21 Oct '11

Hallo Leute, ich beobachte euch schon seit einigen Jahren. Mitunter probiere ich auch Suse Versionen aus. Eine Software gehört aber zu meiner Stammausrüstung und das ist iFolder! Bitte aktualisiert diese Software weiter. Ich benutze es um zwischen meinen Betriebssystemen zu syncronisieren. Und die aktuelle Version ist in ihren Abhängigkeiten (.net,...) etwas veraltet. Könntet Ihr mir eine Info geben, bei wem ich näheres erfahren könnte? Viele Grüße M.Grau -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Contributor gifts
by Christian Boltz 21 Oct '11

21 Oct '11

Hello, [please reply on the opensuse-project mailinglist!] Some time ago, we collected ideas for contributor gifts on http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Contributor_gifts and also decided who should receive a gift - see https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=682098 (basically active members + GSOC students + an option to propose someone who contributed a lot, but isn't a member (yet)). I discussed with AJ today which items on the list would be possible and would make sense. That made list much shorter ;-) The contributor gifts should be something special/exclusive IMHO, not the "usual" stuff we hand out to visitors at conferences or stuff you can order via shop.o.o. I'd say the symbolic value is more important than the price - no gold bar with geeko embossing needed ;-) The narrowed down list contains these proposals: a) things you can touch - coffee mugs - caps - T-Shirt (not an exceptional idea, but people like them) - USB memory sticks (with bootable openSUSE) - openSUSE playing cards The design should be something special that is only available to contributors/members and should contain a hint that the person who wears/owns item is an openSUSE contributor/member. (Take the 11.1 "iContribute" t-shirts as an example.) The openSUSE playing cards are an idea on its own. While the easiest way would be to create "normal" playing cards and just replace king and queen with Tux and Geeko, having a special "openSUSE game" would be even better. (But that would probably also mean it won't be ready when we release 12.1.) When we send out a parcel, we can always add things like stickers, some promo DVDs and a cheat sheet poster. And of course a "thank you" letter. b) Awards at openSUSE conference for contributions in a few categories There would be some categories (for example marketing, packaging, development, bugreporting etc.), and the top-contributor in each category would receive a price. This price would be "bigger" and more personal compared to the items in a) The handling could be done similar to how KDE does Akademy awards: Winners from last year choose winners from next year; would only need 'starting up' for us (categories and winners). The only risk is that not everybody might love that sort of "paperwork" to choose next year's winners so we might need some volunteers as fallback. c) software SLE* license for free or at least a special price (a restriction to "updates only, without support" if you do it for free would be OK). The problem with this option is that not everybody needs a SLE* license. If we decide on one of those, then the next problem comes up: money ;-) At the moment there isn't a budget available, but AJ sees at least chances to get one. (We'll probably have to discuss the details after deciding which of the above we want to do - or if we spend the money for something totally different.) Beside the costs for the gifts itsself, we also have to keep shipment costs and customs in mind. This leads to another question: When/how often do we send a gift to a contributor? The options are: - at every release - once a year - (could even reduce shipment costs - people visiting the conference could get it there, so we have to ship only to those who can't come to the conference) - once when you become a member - call it a "member welcome package" ;-) (and of course the current members would also receive it) I'm open for feedback. What of the above do you think would make a good contributor gift? When/how often should we send one? Or shouldn't we send one at all and spend the money otherwise? There are also some good ideas in the wiki page would make good giveaways at conferences, trade fairs etc: - geeko-shaped paperclips - geeko/openSUSE pins - key fobs - lanyards - jellybaby geekos - someone (Klaas?) mentioned this idea at the conference, but the problem seems to be that producing the shape/form is expensive. The jellybybies itsself are quite cheap compared to that. @marketing team: feel free to use any of those ideas ;-) Regards, Christian Boltz -- [Loadbalancer vor Mailservern] Ausbauen, bei Ebay verhökern und die frei gewordene Zeit zusammen mit dem Ebay-Erlös in eine große Betriebsparty mit Cocktails anlegen. [Peer Heinlein in postfixbuch-users] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Secure Boot issue
by Robert Schweikert 20 Oct '11

20 Oct '11

Hi, By now everybody has probably heard of the Secure Boot UEFI feature being pushed by Micro$oft onto OEMs (Original Equipment Manufacturers). Between Micro$oft's strong arm tactics and the lack of a backbone at the OEM end we all know where this can lead. The FSF has started a petition to collect "signatures" in an effort to make OEMs aware that there are significant pitfalls ahead. For those that care to run openSUSE and other free and open source software on the hardware they purchase in the future signing this petition is probably a good idea, IMHO everyone in the openSUSE community should sign this ;) http://www.fsf.org/campaigns/secure-boot-vs-restricted-boot/statement Later, Robert -- Robert Schweikert MAY THE SOURCE BE WITH YOU SUSE-IBM Software Integration Center LINUX Tech Lead rjschwei(a)suse.com rschweik(a)ca.ibm.com 781-464-8147 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] achievable
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20 Oct '11

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