[opensuse-project] Need to improve update
Hi, Today at the project meeting we had an initial discussion on one of the items from the "What we need to improve" session at OSC 11. We discussed the problem around the number of mailing lists. I tried to capture the highlights of the discussion in the wiki: http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:What_to_improve_osc11_session#Improve_commun... as bullet points. If there is anything I missed or you have ideas in this area that should be captured please feel free to add them to the wiki. The idea is that we do not want to start the discussion from scratch when we pick this topic up again. Also it appears that there might be a need for a volunteer to create a proposal at some point in the future, hopefully not too distant future ;) Later, Robert -- Robert Schweikert MAY THE SOURCE BE WITH YOU SUSE-IBM Software Integration Center LINUX Tech Lead rjschwei@suse.com rschweik@ca.ibm.com 781-464-8147 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org
On 2011-10-19 17:34:55 (-0400), Robert Schweikert
Hi,
Hi Robert, and thanks for picking this topic up.
Today at the project meeting we had an initial discussion on one of the items from the "What we need to improve" session at OSC 11. We discussed the problem around the number of mailing lists. I tried to capture the highlights of the discussion in the wiki: http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:What_to_improve_osc11_session#Improve_commun... as bullet points.
If there is anything I missed or you have ideas in this area that should be captured please feel free to add them to the wiki. The idea is that we do not want to start the discussion from scratch when we pick this topic up again.
I don't see much to add to that point, at least as it is defined there. I can only emphasize that *this* *is* *critical* to the project. Our communication is really terrible at this point -- I won't go into the details here and now, don't want to hijack the thread, and I already know a lot of people will disagree simply because from their position, they don't realize how bad it is. I added a few bits about IRC to the wiki page: * we currently have 82 (!) IRC channels that match "#opensuse*" and "#suse*" * the list is here: http://linux01.gwdg.de/~pbleser/files/opensuse-irc.html (*) * most are empty or next to empty (*) if you want to process the data, it's also available as CSV: http://linux01.gwdg.de/~pbleser/files/opensuse-irc.csv
Also it appears that there might be a need for a volunteer to create a proposal at some point in the future, hopefully not too distant future ;)
Let's collect some data and ideas first :) cheers -- -o) Pascal Bleser /\\ http://opensuse.org -- we haz green _\_v http://fosdem.org -- we haz conf
On Wednesday, October 19, 2011 06:16:20 PM Pascal Bleser wrote: ...
Let's collect some data and ideas first :)
Merge opensuse-wiki and opensuse-web to web@opensuse.org ML. When wiki was the only openSUSE web presence, having wiki mail list was OK, but now it is just keeping apart those few that are willing to work on web side of things. Also, we have a lot of lists that have funny long names where opensuse appear twice, we should rethink that too. -- Regards, Rajko -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org
On czwartek, 20 października 2011 01:16:20 Pascal Bleser wrote:
On 2011-10-19 17:34:55 (-0400), Robert Schweikert
wrote: Hi,
Hi Robert, and thanks for picking this topic up.
Today at the project meeting we had an initial discussion on one of the items from the "What we need to improve" session at OSC 11. We discussed the problem around the number of mailing lists. I tried to capture the highlights of the discussion in the wiki: http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:What_to_improve_osc11_session#Improve_co mmunication_infrastructure as bullet points.
If there is anything I missed or you have ideas in this area that should be captured please feel free to add them to the wiki. The idea is that we do not want to start the discussion from scratch when we pick this topic up again.
I don't see much to add to that point, at least as it is defined there.
I can only emphasize that *this* *is* *critical* to the project. Our communication is really terrible at this point -- I won't go into the details here and now, don't want to hijack the thread, and I already know a lot of people will disagree simply because from their position, they don't realize how bad it is.
I added a few bits about IRC to the wiki page: * we currently have 82 (!) IRC channels that match "#opensuse*" and "#suse*" * the list is here: http://linux01.gwdg.de/~pbleser/files/opensuse-irc.html (*) * most are empty or next to empty
#opensuse-pl is unused and be safety removed. Instead we use #suse.pl and it's an official channel for openSUSE Polish Community.
(*) if you want to process the data, it's also available as CSV: http://linux01.gwdg.de/~pbleser/files/opensuse-irc.csv
Also it appears that there might be a need for a volunteer to create a proposal at some point in the future, hopefully not too distant future ;)
Let's collect some data and ideas first :)
cheers
-- Pozdrawiam / Best regards, Mariusz Fik openSUSE Community Member GPG: 5FCE 7241 B3B9 32FD 455B C30E 42D6 6C88 9E83 7C3D
On Sat, 22 Oct 2011 21:09:23 +0200
Mariusz Fik
On czwartek, 20 października 2011 01:16:20 Pascal Bleser wrote:
On 2011-10-19 17:34:55 (-0400), Robert Schweikert
wrote: Hi,
Hi Robert, and thanks for picking this topic up.
Today at the project meeting we had an initial discussion on one of the items from the "What we need to improve" session at OSC 11. We discussed the problem around the number of mailing lists. I tried to capture the highlights of the discussion in the wiki: http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:What_to_improve_osc11_session#Improve_co mmunication_infrastructure as bullet points.
If there is anything I missed or you have ideas in this area that should be captured please feel free to add them to the wiki. The idea is that we do not want to start the discussion from scratch when we pick this topic up again.
I don't see much to add to that point, at least as it is defined there.
I can only emphasize that *this* *is* *critical* to the project. Our communication is really terrible at this point -- I won't go into the details here and now, don't want to hijack the thread, and I already know a lot of people will disagree simply because from their position, they don't realize how bad it is.
I added a few bits about IRC to the wiki page: * we currently have 82 (!) IRC channels that match "#opensuse*" and "#suse*" * the list is here: http://linux01.gwdg.de/~pbleser/files/opensuse-irc.html (*) * most are empty or next to empty
#opensuse-pl is unused and be safety removed. Instead we use #suse.pl and it's an official channel for openSUSE Polish Community.
(*) if you want to process the data, it's also available as CSV: http://linux01.gwdg.de/~pbleser/files/opensuse-irc.csv
Also it appears that there might be a need for a volunteer to create a proposal at some point in the future, hopefully not too distant future ;)
Let's collect some data and ideas first :)
cheers
Hi The is next to nothing in #opensuse-packaging most use #opensuse-buildservice. There is also no traffic in the #opensuse-forums (except me, as I'm also a Global moderator in the forums). -- Cheers Malcolm °¿° (Linux Counter #276890) openSUSE 11.4 (x86_64) Kernel 2.6.37.6-0.7-desktop up 2 days 6:08, 4 users, load average: 0.26, 0.24, 0.27 GPU GeForce 8600 GTS Silent - Driver Version: 285.05.09 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org
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Malcolm
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Mariusz Fik
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Pascal Bleser
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Rajko M.
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Robert Schweikert