January 2006 - openSUSE Factory - openSUSE Mailing Lists

subfs dropped in 10.1 Beta 2
by houghi 07 Feb '06

07 Feb '06

Hello all, During the IRC meeting from 2006-01-24 it was announced that subfs has been dropped. IRC log and minutes can be found at http://www.opensuse.org/2006-01-24-status-meeting and the timestap for the subfs issue begins at 19:47 >From the minutes: - subfs has been dropped and will be replaced by hal plus gnome-volume-manager (under GNOME) and some binary for KDE. non-KDE and non-GNOME users have to mount manually. They cant even put a line into /etc/fstab, so that a user can mount it. There was a consens that this is unacceptable. Action Item houghi: - start discussion about subfs replacement in non KDE/GNOME systems on opensuse-factory Questions that arise: - Should this be accepted or should it be delayed till a complete solution is given? - As the question came from an FAQ about having subfs disables, is there perhaps a better solution for everybody. Easy disableling subfs for those who want it and enabled for those who want that. - What are the implications of reversing the decision? What are the implications of going on as it is? Any other solutions or comments are welcome as well. Also bear in mind that some people might login over ssh and do not even have a windowmanager. houghi -- Lost interest? It's so bad I've lost apathy.

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Virtual beta testing
by Volker Kuhlmann 03 Feb '06

03 Feb '06

Suppose one has access to a computer resonably well endowed in the CPU and disk departments, running SUSE 10.0. By far most of the beta testing could be done inside something like vmware. However, vmware is out of rea$$ of the average home user. What are the options? Xen, qemu, seperate disk partition to install into, ...? Can someone who has played with Xen, qemu, etc give a quick rundown for this purpose? Given a limited bandwidth which would make it at least 2 days to download all the selected packages, the above ability of doing this in some container running on a standard desktop box in the background would be a prerequisite. This would save having to download all the CDs in advance (and therefore a lot of unused volume). Is it possible to burn the downloaded used packages to DVD to test a non-virtual installation as well? Thanks, Volker -- Volker Kuhlmann is possibly list0570 with the domain in header http://volker.dnsalias.net/ Please do not CC list postings to me.

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Networkmanager: where is it?
by Prumbaum, Frank 31 Jan '06

31 Jan '06

Hello, after installing a3,a4 and now beta1 I haven't found the new network configuration utility yet. O.K., it seems to be an Desktop Applet visible in KDE systray, but I cannot see it. I have a two monitor (nvidia twinview) configuration. Maybe there is s.th. missing? Strange enough I have one desktop in my mother language german while the other stays in english. Is there a way to start it as an independet application (it won't show up by simply starting the binary)? Now, if I want a network interface restarted, I can't do it via 'ifdown eth1', I have to do rcnetwork stop|start. Greetings, Frank > ______________________________________ > AXA Technology Services Germany GmbH > FRANK PRUMBAUM > ATTS-AP/MW (HOL 5.1.6) > Colonia-Allee 10-20; 51067 Köln > Tel.: +49 (0)221 - 148 - 2 44 32 > Fax: +49 (0)221 - 148 - 44 2 19 19 > E-Mail: Mailto:Frank.Prumbaum@axa-tech.com > _____________________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Aus Rechts- und Sicherheitsgruenden ist die in dieser E-Mail gegebene Information nicht rechtsverbindlich. Eine rechtsverbindliche Bestaetigung reichen wir Ihnen gerne auf Anforderung in schriftlicher Form nach. Beachten Sie bitte, dass jede Form der unautorisierten Nutzung, Veroeffentlichung, Vervielfaeltigung oder Weitergabe des Inhalts dieser E-Mail nicht gestattet ist. Diese Nachricht ist ausschliesslich fuer den bezeichneten Adressaten oder dessen Vertreter bestimmt. Sollten Sie nicht der vorgesehene Adressat dieser E-Mail oder dessen Vertreter sein, so bitten wir Sie, sich mit dem Absender der E-Mail in Verbindung zu setzen. ---------------------------- For legal and security reasons the information provided in this e-mail is not legally binding. Upon request we would be pleased to provide you with a legally binding confirmation in written form. Any form of unauthorised use, publication, reproduction, copying or disclosure of the content of this e-mail is not permitted. This message is exclusively for the person addressed or their representative. If you are not the intended recipient of this message and its contents, please notify the sender immediately. ==============================================================================

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why don't my posts show up on the list?
by Frank-Michael Fischer 31 Jan '06

31 Jan '06

-------- Original Message -------- Subject: WELCOME to opensuse-factory(a)opensuse.org Date: 12 Jan 2006 16:20:36 -0000 From: opensuse-factory-help(a)opensuse.org To: fmfischer(a)googlemail.com Hi! This is the ezmlm program. I'm managing the opensuse-factory(a)opensuse.org mailing list. I'm working for my owner, who can be reached at opensuse-factory-owner(a)opensuse.org. Acknowledgment: I have added the address fmfischer(a)googlemail.com to the opensuse-factory mailing list. Welcome to opensuse-factory(a)opensuse.org! Please save this message so that you know the address you are subscribed under, in case you later want to unsubscribe or change your subscription address. To unsubscribe, send a message to: <opensuse-factory-unsubscribe-fmfischer=googlemail.com(a)opensuse.org> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ I've posted on January 20 and 30. On suse-beta-e my posts arrive in perfect order. FMF

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Logitech Messanger Webcam
by Joachim Reichelt 31 Jan '06

31 Jan '06

Hallo, i got now my Logitech Webcam up, but not perfectly. It is only at 324x248. I used: http://www.ubuntu-forum.de/artikel/5924/Logitech-QuickCam-Messenger-Webcam.… http://home.mag.cx/messenger/ The source states: only 162x124, 162x248, 324x124, 324x248 resolution available. -- Joachim

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susewatcher
by Andreas Vetter 31 Jan '06

31 Jan '06

Hi, I just learned, that susewatcher has been dropped for 10.1 (see https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=85780). Is there a replacement? -- Andreas Vetter Fakultaet fuer Physik und Astronomie Universitaet Wuerzburg

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Strange problem
by Kevin R. Garand 30 Jan '06

30 Jan '06

Hello All, I installed OpenSuSe 10.1 beta with all the updates on a Dell Optiplex, with Windows XP on the first partition. Basically Windows was installed first, and then on the free space Open SuSE was installed. Now during reboot, I get just the Dell POST screen, it goes black, and then the Dell POST screen again, and this would go on forever if I let it. I know it hardly seems like an SuSe problem because it is barely getting to the boot process. I apologize in advance if this isn't the proper procedure for this type of thing, but I do not know how to create a bug report (if it is) and I am looking for help. Thank you in advance as well. BIOS has been put back to hard drive as first device as I booted from CD-ROM to install. Again, many apologies if needed as well as many thanks for any advice. AceMan

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Major libSDL performance problems on SuSE 10.1 Beta1 x86-64
by Martin Bickel 30 Jan '06

30 Jan '06

On Sat, 28 Jan 2006 11:25:50 +0100, Andreas Jaeger wrote: >"Martin Bickel" <mbickel(a)asc-hq.org> writes: > >> Hello, >> >> I've encountered an extremely degraded performance for all SDL based >> applications / games on 10.1 Beta1. Drawing the application window is >> so slow that one can watch it being drawn from top to bottom. > >Is this a issue of our slow fontconfig? Please test the updated RPM >that I announced, No, unfortunately not. Installing the new fontconfig didn't help. To demonstrate and reproduce the problem, I've made the attached test program (build instructions included). It just makes simple screen updates for 20 seconds without drawing anything. Debian unstable, X.org 6.9.0 with radeon driver, SDL 1.2.9, x86-64: 230 fps SuSE 10.1 beta 1, X.org 6.9.0-9 with radeon driver, SDL 1.2.9, x86-64: 2 fps !!! So 2 fps is the upper limit that _any_ SDL-based 2D-applications will reach on SuSE 10.1. And most games and emulators included in SuSE are based on SDL. I suggest to get some more results from different installations to see if this problem is specific to my setup or common. Regards, Martin Bickel /* prerequisite packages: SDL SDL-dev to compile: g++ -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/include/SDL -D_REENTRANT -c testfps.cpp g++ -o testfps testfps.o -lm -lSDL -lpthread */ #include <stdio.h> #include <stdlib.h> #include "SDL.h" int main() { /* Initialize SDL */ if ( SDL_Init(SDL_INIT_VIDEO) < 0 ) { fprintf(stderr, "Couldn't initialize SDL: %s\n",SDL_GetError()); exit(1); } atexit(SDL_Quit); int video_bpp; const SDL_VideoInfo *info = SDL_GetVideoInfo(); if ( info->vfmt->BitsPerPixel > 8 ) { video_bpp = info->vfmt->BitsPerPixel; } else { video_bpp = 16; fprintf(stderr, "forced 16 bpp mode\n"); } SDL_Surface *screen; if ( (screen=SDL_SetVideoMode(1000,700,video_bpp,SDL_SWSURFACE)) == NULL ) { fprintf(stderr, "Couldn't set video mode: %s\n", SDL_GetError()); exit(2); } int time = 20; Uint32 ticks1 = SDL_GetTicks(); Uint32 ticks2; int frames = 0; do { SDL_UpdateRect(screen, 0, 0, 0, 0); ++frames; ticks2 = SDL_GetTicks(); } while ( ticks2 - ticks1 < time * 1000 ); printf("%d fps\n", frames / time ); return(0); }

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Beta2: install on LVM impossible
by Carl-Daniel Hailfinger 30 Jan '06

30 Jan '06

Hi, just filed https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=145928 because installing on LVM will not work. If you really need that, run "vgchange -a y" on a commandline directly before clicking on "OK" for installation. However, if your / is on LVM and /boot is not, the install will fail at the bootloader stage because /boot is mounted before / and thus is invisible after mounting / . Don't worry, this will probably be fixed soon. Regards, Carl-Daniel -- http://www.hailfinger.org/

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SLP & CD Install
by Günther J. Niederwimmer 30 Jan '06

30 Jan '06

Hello, I have a problem to install 10.1 CD install and SLP install or nfs install is not working? Is this a known problem ? -- mit freundlichen Grüßen / best Regard, Günther J. Niederwimmer

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Major libSDL performance problems on SuSE 10.1 Beta1 x86-64
by Martin Bickel 28 Jan '06

28 Jan '06

Hello, I've encountered an extremely degraded performance for all SDL based applications / games on 10.1 Beta1. Drawing the application window is so slow that one can watch it being drawn from top to bottom. An game where this can be observed are for example Battle for Wesnoth. Just start the game and observe the title screen: it takes perhaps 0.1 - 0.2 seconds to be drawn instead of being there instantaneously. But all other SDL based games behave the same, even the sample-applications of SDL itself. Can others confirm this behaviour? I'm running the supplied radeon-driver on an ATI RV350 (Radeon 9600). Does this happen with other platforms / graphics drivers too ? This doesn't occur on my Debian system, which also uses X.Org 6.9.0 with Radeon-driver on x86-64, so it's somehow SuSE related. Regards, Martin

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KDE blootooth depencies
by Christian Boltz 27 Jan '06

27 Jan '06

Hello, with an older SUSE version, I had problems using bluetooth:/ in Konqueror - it found a friend's mobile phone, but showed only an empty file list for it. It turned out that the backend applications (obexftp etc. - just search for bluetooth in YaST sw_single) were not installed - but there was no warning in Konqueror and no package depency that installed the required packages automatically. Unfortunately, I don't have a bluetooth device to do tests and therefore can't test if this problem is still existent in 10.1 beta. Can someone test it, please? Here's how to reproduce: - uninstall all bluetooth-related packages (search for "bluetooth" in Yast), except the kdebluetooth package, and do not break depencies, of course - enter bluetooth:/ in Konqueror, connect to a device that offers files to download - check if any of the files are displayed in Konquerors file listing If you get an empty list without any error message, the bug is still there. Just tell me and I'll enter a bug report. Regards, Christian Boltz -- Meine sigg macht Urlaub bis Donnerstag. [WoKo in dag°]

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nfsv4 README.SUSE
by Marcel Volz 27 Jan '06

27 Jan '06

I had to do several steps to use nfsv4 in SUSE. There is not much documentation around nfsv4 at the time. Maybe it could be helpful to write a README.SUSE so that more people could use/test nfsv4. Comments welcome! 1. First set up some principal and made a keytab (/etc/krb5.keytab) for the server and client host/<FQDN> and nfs/<FQDN> (des-cbc-crc:normal only) 2. Activated nfs4 and gss in /etc/sysconfig/nfs 3. Had to make a missing directoy:.mkdir /var/lib/nfs/rpc_pipefs/nfs (BUG?!) 4. Edited /etc/exports: added /home gss/krb5 (rw,fsid=0,insecure,no_subtree_check) 5. Then I had to load some modules modprobe auth_rpcgss rpcsec_gss_krb5 . Also added this to MODULES_LOADED_ON_BOOT to the file /etc/sysconfig/kernel 6. ln -s /usr/lib/libgssapi_krb5.so.2 /usr/lib/libgssapi_krb5.so or edit /etc/gssapi_mech.conf 8. Changed localhost to my domain name in /etc/idmap.conf 9. Started all needed Daemons nfsserver, idmap, svcgssd at the server and idmap and gssd at the client 10. Mounted the Partition: mount -t nfs4 -o sec=krb5 beta:/ /nfs/beta/ -- Greetings/Grüße, Marcel

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Duplicated proces
by Juan Erbes 27 Jan '06

27 Jan '06

I Fount in the top screen, some duplicate proces such as: mingetty kdm automount pdflush Other proces, is'nt duplicated, but I do'nt know what is: scsi_eh_0 scsi_eh_1 It seems as the network interface, with a scsi device. The screen of top is: Tasks: 85 total, 1 running, 83 sleeping, 0 stopped, 1 zombie Cpu(s): 1.3% us, 1.0% sy, 0.0% ni, 95.0% id, 2.7% wa, 0.0% hi, 0.0% si Mem: 516456k total, 392428k used, 124028k free, 41512k buffers Swap: 1036152k total, 120k used, 1036032k free, 167392k cached PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND 3115 root 15 0 99900 12m 4760 S 1.0 2.4 0:36.01 X 2130 root 16 0 1892 616 444 D 0.3 0.1 0:00.86 syslog-ng 2134 root 16 0 1656 564 372 S 0.3 0.1 0:00.36 klogd 4005 root 16 0 2172 1116 848 R 0.3 0.2 0:00.33 top 1 root 16 0 724 280 240 S 0.0 0.1 0:01.45 init 2 root 34 19 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 ksoftirqd/0 3 root RT 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 watchdog/0 4 root 10 -5 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.04 events/0 5 root 10 -5 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.02 khelper 6 root 10 -5 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 kthread 8 root 10 -5 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.01 kblockd/0 9 root 20 -5 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 kacpid 121 root 15 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 pdflush 122 root 15 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.05 pdflush 124 root 16 -5 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 aio/0 123 root 15 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.08 kswapd0 330 root 10 -5 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 kseriod 377 root 10 -5 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.01 kpsmoused 746 root 10 -5 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 ata/0 749 root 11 -5 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 scsi_eh_0 750 root 11 -5 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 scsi_eh_1 806 root 10 -5 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 reiserfs/0 910 root 11 -4 1760 548 348 S 0.0 0.1 0:00.43 udevd 1299 root 10 -5 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 khubd 1329 root 10 -5 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.02 kgameportd 1367 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 shpchpd_event 2092 root 16 0 1516 508 436 S 0.0 0.1 0:00.00 acpid 2131 messageb 16 0 3420 1012 744 S 0.0 0.2 0:00.63 dbus-daemon 2170 root 17 0 1792 692 568 S 0.0 0.1 0:00.02 resmgrd 2201 root 16 0 4320 2884 1456 S 0.0 0.6 0:02.24 hald 2271 nobody 16 0 1560 424 340 S 0.0 0.1 0:00.00 portmap 2279 root 16 0 2756 1232 1092 S 0.0 0.2 0:00.00 NetworkManagerD 2297 root 21 0 1816 612 540 S 0.0 0.1 0:00.00 hald-addon-acpi 2301 root 16 0 11956 1900 1664 S 0.0 0.4 0:01.62 NetworkManager 2772 root 16 0 2316 1196 540 S 0.0 0.2 0:00.00 pcscd 2790 root 16 0 1796 704 580 S 0.0 0.1 0:00.00 cron 2939 root 25 0 4956 1212 880 S 0.0 0.2 0:00.13 sshd 2954 root 15 0 4580 1344 1060 S 0.0 0.3 0:00.00 smpppd 3036 root 16 0 1664 688 568 S 0.0 0.1 0:00.00 automount 3038 root 16 0 1660 668 556 S 0.0 0.1 0:00.00 automount 3054 root 15 0 1856 784 664 S 0.0 0.2 0:00.00 dhcdbd 3055 root 16 0 2112 1068 772 S 0.0 0.2 0:00.00 dhclient 3063 root 17 0 2812 792 668 S 0.0 0.2 0:00.00 kdm 3089 lp 16 0 6840 3080 1360 S 0.0 0.6 0:00.28 cupsd 3119 root 17 0 3556 1232 980 S 0.0 0.2 0:00.01 kdm 3121 root 18 0 1956 644 572 S 0.0 0.1 0:00.11 mingetty 3122 root 18 0 1956 628 556 S 0.0 0.1 0:00.00 mingetty Thanks

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XFS?
by Glenn Holmer 26 Jan '06

26 Jan '06

I noticed that XFS was not an option when partitioning for 10.1 beta1. Is this something that will come later? -- ====================================================== Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682) ====================================================== "Greater coherence cannot be achieved. Not even the Netherlanders have managed this." -Anton Webern ======================================================

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Could'nt find boot.coldplug in beta1
by Juan Erbes 26 Jan '06

26 Jan '06

I have a problem that comes from the update from alpha 2 to 3, and the last weekend I upgraded to beta 1, and the problem continues. I opened the bug 144652, and I have no adecuate response. Other user has comment the same problem with alpha 3: http://lists.opensuse.org/archive/opensuse-factory/2005-Nov/0009.html After the last upgrade to beta1, I try to reinstall preload, and I got: 1:Installing preload ###################################################################################### [100%] Output from preload-0.2-7@i586: insserv: Service boot.coldplug has to be enabled for service boot.preload insserv: exiting now! error: %post(preload-0.2-7.i586) scriptlet failed, exit status 1 I do'nt find boot.coldplug, in /etc/init.d In what package are the script boot.coldplug ? Thanks

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qtcurve, a replacement for gtk_qt_engine
by jsiebert＠arcor.de 25 Jan '06

25 Jan '06

Hi there, I was looking around the last few days for a replacement for the (my opinion) crappy gtk_qt_engine. As far as I know this package is unmaintained at freedesktop.org and creates a lot of problems (like with eclipse, which I use permanently). Besides when using GTK-based apps under KDE with gtk_qt_engine, they look very [CENSORED] in many ways. I found the very promising project qtcurve (http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=5065) which provides a unified widget theme engine for QT, GTK2 and GTK1. There are binary packages for Suse at Guru's RPM page (http://linux01.gwdg.de/~pbleser/rpm-navigation.php?cat=/Themes/qtcurve). After some testing I think this is a very good replacement for gtk_qt_engine and I would like to vote for inclusion of this package into one of the next Suse/openSUSE releases. What do you think? Greetings Jens Siebert Machen Sie aus 14 Cent spielend bis zu 100 Euro! Die neue Gaming-Area von Arcor - über 50 Onlinespiele im Angebot. http://www.arcor.de/rd/emf-gaming-1

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VMware-workstation-5.5.1 and SUSE 10.1 B1
by James PEARSON 25 Jan '06

25 Jan '06

Hello all I tried (unsucessfully) to compile the vmmon modules using both with VMware-workstation-5.5.1-19175.i386.rpm and vmware-any-any-update94 using linux 2.6.15-git12-6-default SUSE kernel It errors out. I was wondering if anyone else has been to install VMware-workstation-5.5 on SUSE 10.1 B1? I haven't had much time to research the problem but I did post extracts of the error messages over at the vmware community. Here is the url http://www.vmware.com/community/thread.jspa?threadID=30803&tstart=0 James

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fetchmail 6.3.1
by Aschwin Marsman 25 Jan '06

25 Jan '06

Hi, Fetchmail 6.3.1 was released a couple of days ago. I haven't seen a security update for SUSE 10.0 yet and havent found a new src rpm on: http://ftp.opensuse.org/pub/opensuse/distribution/SL-OSS-factory/inst-sourc… so I can build it myself easily. Any plans? Otherwise I will get the src. Have a pleasent year end, Aschwin Marsman -- aschwin(a)marsman.org http://www.marsman.org

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More gtk-sharp packaging changes.
by Wade Berrier 24 Jan '06

24 Jan '06

More sub packages have been split out. This should have been done the first go around, but better now than later. The following packages have been added: art-sharp2 gnome-vfs-sharp2 gtkhtml-sharp2 rsvg-sharp2 And for gtk-sharp 1.0.10: art-sharp gda-sharp gnomedb-sharp gtkhtml-sharp rsvg-sharp If you're using gtk-sharp-complete or gtk-sharp2-complete in neededforbuild, you won't need any changes (thanks Rudi!). Wade

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gtk-qt-engine removed in 10.1?
by jsiebert＠arcor.de 24 Jan '06

24 Jan '06

Hi there! I looked at some screenshots of Suse 10.1b1 at shots.osdir.com and noticed a new option in the KDE control-center in one of the screenshots (http://shots.osdir.com/slideshows/slideshow.php?release=565&slide=15) which covers font and style settings of GTK apps in KDE. Is this related to gtk-qt-engine or is this replaced by another GTK/KDE theme engine in 10.1? Greetings Jens Siebert Machen Sie aus 14 Cent spielend bis zu 100 Euro! Die neue Gaming-Area von Arcor - über 50 Onlinespiele im Angebot. http://www.arcor.de/rd/emf-gaming-1

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Factory and bugzilla
by Anders Norrbring 24 Jan '06

24 Jan '06

Hiya all... I see quite some entries in bugzilla about "resolved" and "commited", but I haven't seen any updates in the factory distribution directories yet. What's the "normal" lead-time from commited fix until it's available for download? Or, are the fixes not posted for public download? -- Anders Norrbring Norrbring Consulting

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AW: [opensuse-factory] AW: [SPAM] [opensuse-announce] SUSE Linux 10.1 Beta1 Released
by Prumbaum, Frank 24 Jan '06

24 Jan '06

>> Hi, >> >> while updating my 10.1a4 to 10.1b1 the installation >> procedure was very slowly reacting, my mouse pointer jumping >> every second. This startet right after X came up from installation >> cd. While starting boot cds of 10.0, 10.1a3 or a4 I never had this >> problem. >> >> Furthermore my font installation seems to be a bit messed up, every >> font package takes between 30 minutes and 2 hours to get installed. >> This is bit confusing cause I never installed s.th. by myself, my >> system has gone all the way through 10.0 -> 10.1a3 -> 10.1a4. Could >> this be an issue of the newly released Xorg? >> >> I'm now 30 hours into installation with 40 packages remaining... >> >> I can't imagine many who are patient enough waiting that long (Wouldn't >> it be possible to have a button 'ignore this package'?) >> >> Frank >> ------ >This sounds lika a very local problem to your conputer.. I've installed >beta1 on 4 separate boxes, i386 and x86_64 and all the installations >went as smooth as expected, no long delays anywhere. >One of the installations was in a VMware VM as well, and as I said, all >of them ran just fine during installation. >-- >Anders Norrbring >Norrbring Consulting Hi, well thanks, it seems I was a victim of Bug #143715 (https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=143715) (Found in http://www.opensuse.org/Bugs:Most_Annoying_Bugs) Greetings Frank ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Aus Rechts- und Sicherheitsgruenden ist die in dieser E-Mail gegebene Information nicht rechtsverbindlich. Eine rechtsverbindliche Bestaetigung reichen wir Ihnen gerne auf Anforderung in schriftlicher Form nach. Beachten Sie bitte, dass jede Form der unautorisierten Nutzung, Veroeffentlichung, Vervielfaeltigung oder Weitergabe des Inhalts dieser E-Mail nicht gestattet ist. Diese Nachricht ist ausschliesslich fuer den bezeichneten Adressaten oder dessen Vertreter bestimmt. Sollten Sie nicht der vorgesehene Adressat dieser E-Mail oder dessen Vertreter sein, so bitten wir Sie, sich mit dem Absender der E-Mail in Verbindung zu setzen. ---------------------------- For legal and security reasons the information provided in this e-mail is not legally binding. Upon request we would be pleased to provide you with a legally binding confirmation in written form. Any form of unauthorised use, publication, reproduction, copying or disclosure of the content of this e-mail is not permitted. This message is exclusively for the person addressed or their representative. If you are not the intended recipient of this message and its contents, please notify the sender immediately. ==============================================================================

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ipw2100 firmware
by Glenn Holmer 24 Jan '06

24 Jan '06

I didn't see where to download the ipw2100 firmware, so as to be able to test wireless? -- ====================================================== Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682) ====================================================== "Greater coherence cannot be achieved. Not even the Netherlanders have managed this." -Anton Webern ======================================================

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AW: [SPAM] [opensuse-announce] SUSE Linux 10.1 Beta1 Released
by Prumbaum, Frank 23 Jan '06

23 Jan '06

Hi, while updating my 10.1a4 to 10.1b1 the installation procedure was very slowly reacting, my mouse pointer jumping every second. This startet right after X came up from installation cd. While starting boot cds of 10.0, 10.1a3 or a4 I never had this problem. Furthermore my font installation seems to be a bit messed up, every font package takes between 30 minutes and 2 hours to get installed. This is bit confusing cause I never installed s.th. by myself, my system has gone all the way through 10.0 -> 10.1a3 -> 10.1a4. Could this be an issue of the newly released Xorg? I'm now 30 hours into installation with 40 packages remaining... I can't imagine many who are patient enough waiting that long (Wouldn't it be possible to have a button 'ignore this package'?) Frank ------ > ______________________________________ > AXA Technology Services Germany GmbH > FRANK PRUMBAUM > ATTS-AP/MW (HOL 5.1.6) > Colonia-Allee 10-20; 51067 Köln > Tel.: +49 (0)221 - 148 - 2 44 32 > Fax: +49 (0)221 - 148 - 44 2 19 19 > E-Mail: Mailto:Frank.Prumbaum@axa-tech.com > _____________________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Aus Rechts- und Sicherheitsgruenden ist die in dieser E-Mail gegebene Information nicht rechtsverbindlich. Eine rechtsverbindliche Bestaetigung reichen wir Ihnen gerne auf Anforderung in schriftlicher Form nach. Beachten Sie bitte, dass jede Form der unautorisierten Nutzung, Veroeffentlichung, Vervielfaeltigung oder Weitergabe des Inhalts dieser E-Mail nicht gestattet ist. Diese Nachricht ist ausschliesslich fuer den bezeichneten Adressaten oder dessen Vertreter bestimmt. Sollten Sie nicht der vorgesehene Adressat dieser E-Mail oder dessen Vertreter sein, so bitten wir Sie, sich mit dem Absender der E-Mail in Verbindung zu setzen. ---------------------------- For legal and security reasons the information provided in this e-mail is not legally binding. Upon request we would be pleased to provide you with a legally binding confirmation in written form. Any form of unauthorised use, publication, reproduction, copying or disclosure of the content of this e-mail is not permitted. This message is exclusively for the person addressed or their representative. If you are not the intended recipient of this message and its contents, please notify the sender immediately. ==============================================================================

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RE: [opensuse-factory] ipw2100 firmware
by Robison, Jonathon (M.) 23 Jan '06

23 Jan '06

Ipw2100.sf.net --jmr -----Original Message----- From: Glenn Holmer [mailto:gholmer@ameritech.net] Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2006 9:29 PM To: opensuse-factory(a)opensuse.org Subject: [opensuse-factory] ipw2100 firmware I didn't see where to download the ipw2100 firmware, so as to be able to test wireless? -- ====================================================== Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682) ====================================================== "Greater coherence cannot be achieved. Not even the Netherlanders have managed this." -Anton Webern ======================================================

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[Andreas Jaeger] [opensuse-announce] SUSE Linux 10.1 Beta1 Released
by Andreas Jaeger 23 Jan '06

23 Jan '06

FYI. Note: Most mirrors are not open yet, so download might take some time, Andreas Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, aj(a)suse.de, http://www.suse.de/~aj/ SUSE Linux Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126

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Re: [opensuse-announce] SUSE Linux 10.1 Beta1 Released
by Peter Czanik 22 Jan '06

22 Jan '06

Hello, Andreas Jaeger wrote: > * PPC only: The jsm serial driver is gone, its maintainers failed to > fix it. There is thus no way to boot on (old or new) PPC systems > with 8250 serial ports. > I don't know, if it's related to this change, but Pegasos PPC does not boot any more. It worked fine with factory boot.ppc.iso from Wednesday. Part of dmesg from a 10.0 kernel: "serio: i8042 AUX port at 0x60,0x64 irq 12 serio: i8042 KBD port at 0x60,0x64 irq 1 Serial: 8250/16550 driver $Revision: 1.90 $ 4 ports, IRQ sharing disabled ttyS1 at I/O 0x2f8 (irq = 3) is a 16550A " Booting failed just after the "Serial: 8250/16550 driver $Revision: 1.90 $ 4 ports, IRQ sharing disabled". I tested SuSE 10.1 beta1 mini bood CD, the latest factory boot.ppc.iso and SLES 10 CD1 as well. Where should I report it? A "SuSE linux 10.1" and/or as a "SLES 10" bug? A picture of the faliure is available at http://peter.czanik.hu/kep/pegfail.jpg (5MB jpeg made with a digital camera). Bye, -- CzP http://peter.czanik.hu/

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installing beta 1 with ATI fglrx driver
by Robert Schiele 22 Jan '06

22 Jan '06

Hi everybody, if you wanted to install the ATI proprietary fglrx driver on a 10.1 beta 1 system you will have the problem that some files from the fglrx package are linked to an expat library version that is no longer shipped with beta 1. If you still want to use the fglrx driver with beta 1 you can install the package http://pi3.informatik.uni-mannheim.de/~schiele/beta1/expat-compat-0-0.i586.… as a workaround. If you need the same package for a 64 bit system, drop me a note and I might consider to build one as well. Robert -- Robert Schiele Tel.: +49-621-181-2214 Dipl.-Wirtsch.informatiker mailto:rschiele@uni-mannheim.de "Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum sonatur."

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Apache not running.. 10.1 beta1
by Anders Norrbring 22 Jan '06

22 Jan '06

I've made a standard Apache installation with the example pages, and try to access it.. No luck, I get an empty page and this in the error_log [Sun Jan 22 16:09:12 2006] [notice] Apache/2.2.0 (Linux/SUSE) configured -- resuming normal operations [Sun Jan 22 16:09:25 2006] [notice] child pid 7440 exit signal Segmentation fault (11) This was WITH the PHP5 enabled. If I disable the php5 module, it shows the server root index.html page without problems. Ideas? -- Anders Norrbring Norrbring Consulting

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Beta1-mini.iso not working
by Rauch Christian 22 Jan '06

22 Jan '06

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi List, i downloaded 10.1 Beta1 today and tried to install using a 10.0 Installation Server and using SUSE-10.1-CD-OSS-i386-Beta1-mini.iso for install. I triplechecked this iso, so md5sum is correct, and it gets burned correct(K3B Checks succeeds), but i can not boot with this CD. Can anyone tell me, whats wrong? Is this one not to be used for, what the old boot.iso (e.g. in 10.0 inst-source/boot) was for? Or is there something wrong with my system or the iso? btw. size of this iso comes quite small to me, only 37 mb instead of 64 mb for 10.0. Regards, Christian -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFD04R+ayhvFxrDZlkRAtKFAJ9sjDQrvzwcEfi98YPmLULbUmD1mwCcCFnW hiavSAxlhTKplHjZt8L+HQo= =sMKe -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Apt and SUSE 10.1 Beta 1
by James PEARSON 22 Jan '06

22 Jan '06

Hello all Has anyone installed and used "apt" on the SUSE beta 10.1? I installed the same two apt and apt-lib rpm packages that I am using on SUSE 10.0: apt-0.5.15cnc7-6 apt-libs-0.5.15cnc7-6 I used the "sources.list" from http://ftp4.gwdg.de/pub/linux/suse/apt/SuSE/10.1-i386/examples/sources.list… When I ran "apt-get update" I got the following error message: apt-get: error while loading shared libraries: librpm-4.1.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory Running Apt update... apt-get: error while loading shared libraries: librpm-4.1.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory Checked to what the differences between rpm and librpm were on SUSE 10.0 et SUSE 10.1 BETA1. The results below show the version changes... # SUSE 10.1 BETA 1 rpm-4.4.2-9 # SUSE 10.0 rpm-4.1.1-222 # SUSE 10.1 BETA 1 ls -l /usr/lib/librpm* linux:/data/Install/Apts # ls -l /usr/lib/librpm* -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 363460 Jan 15 18:30 /usr/lib/librpm-4.4.so -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 156980 Jan 15 18:30 /usr/lib/librpmbuild-4.4.so -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 989460 Jan 15 18:30 /usr/lib/librpmdb-4.4.so -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 415100 Jan 15 18:30 /usr/lib/librpmio-4.4.so # SUSE 10.0 ls -l /usr/lib/librpm* -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 320240 2005-09-09 17:10 /usr/lib/librpm-4.1.so -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 156572 2005-09-09 17:10 /usr/lib/librpmbuild-4.1.so -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1028772 2005-09-09 17:10 /usr/lib/librpmdb-4.1.so -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 314868 2005-09-09 17:10 /usr/lib/librpmio-4.1.so # I tried the following just to see what would happen ln -s /usr/lib/librpm-4.4.so /usr/lib/librpm-4.1.so ln -s /usr/lib/librpmbuild-4.4.so /usr/lib/librpmbuild-4.1.so ln -s /usr/lib/librpmdb-4.4.so /usr/lib/librpmdb-4.1.so ln -s /usr/lib/librpmio-4.4.so /usr/lib/librpmio-4.1.so Results running apt-get update # apt-get update Get:1 ftp://ftp4.gwdg.de SuSE/10.1-i386 release [1366B] Fetched 1366B in 0s (2043B/s) Get:1 ftp://ftp4.gwdg.de SuSE/10.1-i386/rpmkeys pkglist [5801B] Get:2 ftp://ftp4.gwdg.de SuSE/10.1-i386/rpmkeys release [133B] Get:3 ftp://ftp4.gwdg.de SuSE/10.1-i386/base pkglist [5935kB] Get:4 ftp://ftp4.gwdg.de SuSE/10.1-i386/base release [130B] Get:5 ftp://ftp4.gwdg.de SuSE/10.1-i386/extra pkglist [128kB] Get:6 ftp://ftp4.gwdg.de SuSE/10.1-i386/extra release [131B] Get:7 ftp://ftp4.gwdg.de SuSE/10.1-i386/security pkglist [14B] Get:8 ftp://ftp4.gwdg.de SuSE/10.1-i386/security release [135B] Get:9 ftp://ftp4.gwdg.de SuSE/10.1-i386/rpmkeys srclist [14B] Get:10 ftp://ftp4.gwdg.de SuSE/10.1-i386/base srclist [721kB] Get:11 ftp://ftp4.gwdg.de SuSE/10.1-i386/extra srclist [16.5kB] Get:12 ftp://ftp4.gwdg.de SuSE/10.1-i386/security srclist [14B] Fetched 6807kB in 17s (380kB/s) Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done Good but not good enough as there are still have a few important problems to solve before I apt will work as shown below... apt-get dist-upgrade Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done You might want to run `apt-get --fix-broken install' to correct these. The following packages have unmet dependencies: apt: Depends: librpm-4.1.so but it is not installable Depends: librpmdb-4.1.so but it is not installable Depends: librpmio-4.1.so but it is not installable apt-libs: Depends: librpm-4.1.so but it is not installable Depends: librpmdb-4.1.so but it is not installable Depends: librpmio-4.1.so but it One last thing... I noticed that the the SUSE 10.1 BETA CDs contain version "apt-libs-0.5.15cnc7-9" (I installed "cnc7-6") but there is no "apt" package. I know that smart is the way of the future but I still like using the two of them. All comments welcome James

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How should Yast be configured to install NVidia drivers?
by Sean Kelley 22 Jan '06

22 Jan '06

Thanks! Sean

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Where can I obtain apt for my 10.1 b1 install?
by Sean Kelley 22 Jan '06

22 Jan '06

I want to add Java and flash support to my 10.1 build but I don't know where to find apt softrware. Any help on where to find the apt software is much appreciated. Thanks, Sean

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Remarks on 10.1 B1
by houghi 21 Jan '06

21 Jan '06

Hello, I am back again. :-) All things below (exept for the Matrox/sax 2 problem) have been entererd in Bugzilla. I will try to figure out a bit more before I do that. I have just tried installing 10.1B1 a few times and these are some of my remarks. Some very minor, some major. 1) makeSUSEdvd works. Good. :-) 2) Explanation of KDE and Gnome could be better. Now beginners could become confused. Perhaps a line like "If in doubt select Gnome" could be added. [minor] 3) Keyboard selection is not very obvious. A beginner might be fearfull to go to Expert mode, just so he can selct his Belgian keyboard. (I choose Belgian, because it is not a language, so setting it through there won't work) [medium] 4) It would be nice to have some sound when the machine reboots. That way you do not have to pay constand attention how far it is. Some people also use just one monitor/keybord and this way they can still work on the other PC. [minor] 5) Test connection (wich does not work, I know) tells me the connection will be done via eth-is-00:... instead of just eth0. If I have more then one card, this can become confusing. [medium] 6) When a user is made, the defaults to recieve system mail and auto login should be reversed. This has been discussed before. [medium] 7) My Wintv-PVR card is nicely recognised, yet gives an error 'Cannot start WinTC-PVR 350' [medium] 8) When I see the login for the first time, I am unable to do [CTRL][ALT][F1] to get to CLI. [Major] 9) .vimrc would be nice to have as a default to have colours. [minor] 10) Root on a terminal would be nice to have a different color as text (PS1 and such) [minor] 11) Although the system perfectly recognises my Matrox G550, it fails to set the dualscreen correctly (or partially correctly). I will start another thread about this, because more is going on. houghi -- "California is proud to be the home of the freeway." -- Ronald Reagan

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Re: [opensuse] Remarks on 10.1 B1
by Silviu Marin-Caea 21 Jan '06

21 Jan '06

On Saturday 21 January 2006 16:01, houghi wrote: > 2) Explanation of KDE and Gnome could be better. Now beginners could > become confused. Perhaps a line like "If in doubt select Gnome" could be > added. [minor] I suggest a screen-shot of the default desktop of each, with the Launch menu open. > 6) When a user is made, the defaults to recieve system mail and auto login > should be reversed. This has been discussed before. [medium] openSUSE is for home-use, so autologin by default is fine. > 10) Root on a terminal would be nice to have a different color as text > (PS1 and such) [minor] Yes, a coloured prompt would be really nice.

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Re: Cannot enable service 'SuSEfirewall2_init'
by James PEARSON 21 Jan '06

21 Jan '06

Hello How does one configure SuSEfirewall2 on the new SUSE Linux 10.1 Beta1 to run/start "at boot". When I try to enable the service through yast2 firewall I get the following message: Cannot enable service 'SuSEfirewall2_init' TIA James (running SUSE Linux 10.1 Beta1 on VMwareWorkstation-5.5.1-19175 / SUSE Linux 10)

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help: how to access a drpmsync mirror
by Frank-Michael Fischer 20 Jan '06

20 Jan '06

I am trying to download SUSE 10.factory. The command line to do that from OpenSUSE is: drpmsync drpmsync.opensuse.org:8888/Factory /my/directory But what is is for e.g.: kernel.org or TU-Chemnitz.de I'd appreciate any help! FMF

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selections?
by Peter Czanik 19 Jan '06

19 Jan '06

Hello, I wanted to install factory, but there are no software selections available. Could you make some available? Thanks, bye, -- CzP http://peter.czanik.hu/

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[Fwd: Major gtk-sharp2 packaging changes]
by Wade Berrier 17 Jan '06

17 Jan '06

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[WARNING] Don't use drpmsync while repository is broken
by Robert Schiele 14 Jan '06

14 Jan '06

Hi everybody! I recommend not using drpmsync with the Factory repository at the moment until https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=143260 is fixed because if you run drpmsync at the moment you will lose about 1/3 of all your packages what will lead to the annoying situation that you have to redownload them as _full_ packages instead of deltas again when the problem is fixed. Robert -- Robert Schiele Tel.: +49-621-181-2214 Dipl.-Wirtsch.informatiker mailto:rschiele@uni-mannheim.de "Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum sonatur."

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faster reboot with kexec, debugging panics with kdump
by Carl-Daniel Hailfinger 11 Jan '06

11 Jan '06

Hi, it seems kexec support was merged in the latest SUSE 10.1 snapshot. This enables you to skip the BIOS when rebooting. Especially if your BIOS is slow/buggy/whatever, this is a really nice feature to have. To test it, install kexec-tools from latest factory snapshot and a recent kernel (those from factory are recent enough). Boot into single user. # kexec -l --command-line="`cat /proc/cmdline`" --initrd=/boot/initrd /boot/vmlinuz # remount ro / # kexec -e You should now see the new kernel booting. I have had success with both my recent Samsung laptop and an old 600 MHz machine with SCSI. The time saved (compared to a normal reboot) was: Samsung laptop, 1600 MHz: 12 seconds No-name machine, 600 MHz, SCSI disks/cdrom: 31 seconds If you always hated the time it takes to reboot a server or your home machine, that might make you happy. Benefits of kexec: - Reboot is faster - The BIOS has no chance to throw errors on you - The above is especially true if you use FakeRAID controllers - You don't have to wait until the SCSI controller has enumerated all devices - You don't depend on a working GRUB or LILO configuration - You could even abuse it to install a newer version of SUSE Linux without booting from CD/DVD/floppy Caveats: - Some hardware might not work after kexec'ing the new kernel. This can be fixed in the driver for that hardware - Video problems like no display or corrupted display are possible. Please try "kexec -e --reset-vga" as last command or disable vesafb - Somebody needs to hack /sbin/reboot to kexec an already loaded kernel if there is one Additional cool features (kdump): - You might use kexec to load a special crashdump kernel which is started if your kernel panics. That kernel can save all relevant debugging info and write it to disk safely, even if the panic happens while you're using X11 or there is some other reason why you can't see or capture the panic - Unfortunately, I can't get kdump to run on my machine, but you might be luckier Hey, if we're lucky and it works for everyone, we might even get kexec supported as optional fastrebooting solution. Regards, Carl-Daniel -- http://www.hailfinger.org/

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Could not load any usb module
by Juan Erbes 09 Jan '06

09 Jan '06

With versions alpha 3 and 4, I could'nt use any usb device, and yesterday, I found that the system not loads anu usb module, and if I will to load with "insmod usbcore", the system not finds this module; I must give the full path (/lib/modules../../../usbcore.ko). If I will to load the usb-storage module with "insmod /lib/modules../../../usb-sorage.ko", the system says that could'nt find /lib/modules../../../usb_sorage.ko. Note the diference betwen usb_sorage.ko and usb-sorage.ko. Thanks

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new beta1 version
by Chema Ollés 06 Jan '06

06 Jan '06

Hi all: I see this another time with other alpha version. beta1 version will appear on Jan 19 but if I download now Jan 6 suse-release-oss-10.0.42-9.i586.rpm from http://ftp4.gwdg.de/pub/linux/suse... I can see this: SUSE LINUX 10.0.42 (i586) OSS Beta1 Is possible that it does not have importance but bothers that differences of dates... Regards -- Chema Ollés Usuario Linux: #198057 Linux 2.6.15-rc5-git3-2-smp #1 SMP Wed Dec 14 13:10:38 UTC 2005 i686

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Udev rules
by Juan Erbes 05 Jan '06

05 Jan '06

I could'nt configure any usb device, because yast do'nt detect it, because not loads any usb module (for example, the usb printer). I have updated the system via apt, and have the kernel from the date 29/12/05, but the yast modules are not completely updated. For configure the sound, I must run alsaconf, and later the yast, and restarting the kde, and then the sound works; but if I restart completelly the system the sound do'nt works, because not loads any sound module, and the sound devices has disappeared. I mean that the problem, is that yast do'nt writes the udev rules. Can You tell me how it works? Thanks, Juan

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ppc boot cd
by Peter Czanik 05 Jan '06

05 Jan '06

Hello, boot.ppc.iso does not seem to be useable. It does not contain a bootable kernel :( Any timeframe, when it will be fixed? I wanted to test it this year... Bye, CzP

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boot problems
by Peter Czanik 02 Jan '06

02 Jan '06

Hello, I downloaded opensuse factory yesterday (dec. 27.) for i386 and ppc. First of all: I could not find a bootable kernel image on the PPC boot disk (boot.ppc.iso), so PPC testing is postponed until I can start installation... And my problems on x86 (a Compaq nx8220 notebook): - there was an unsolved dependency, that 'alsa-tools' needs 'alsa-firmware 1.0.10'. Later I saw, that it was actually installed :) - and a show stopping bug (for me): the installed grub does not work on my machine: when I choose 'windows' from the menu, it reboots, when I choose any of the Linux menu entries, it just freezes, and nothing happens (the wonderfull christmas tree remains on screen). So, I put back 10.0... Bye, CzP

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opensuse 10.1alpha4 - no Networking
by Daryl Creedy 01 Jan '06

01 Jan '06

Hello, I have just installed 10.1alpha 4 and can not get networking to work. This has worked in all previous versions. Network card is :Gigabit (10/100/1000 Mbits/sec) LAN subsystem using the Marvell* Yukon* 88E8050 PCI Express* Gigabit Ethernet Controller The sysKonnect driver is supposed to work with it, but no joy. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Daryl

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