The first thread got off track. I need a new one. Cpmputer: HP 6305 minitower, with HP motherboard. Latest BIOS BIOS provides 'Legacy Support' (= bios/mbr): enabled Secure boot is disabled Windows 7 Pro, 64 bit. Drives: /dev/sda -- came with computer; entirely filled up. /dev/sdb -- my addition to use for Linux With nothing on 'sdb', the system boots to Win-7 (Today I deleted all partition on sdb) Let me be clear: Windows boots with bios/MBR and the corresponding bootmgr. It will _not_ boot if the BIOS Legacy Support is turned off (= UEFI). (The system came with a Win-8 disk, and the computer could be set to use it. It never was.) The openSuSE 13.2 full install DVD, 4.4 GiB, (iso) was downloaded. Booting up to the DVD, there are no menu lines for either to boot from the installed system (only win-7) or for memtest. These items are present if the DVD is booted on other computers! Proceeding with installatiion, I construct ext4 partitions on sdb as I had done in the past. But the installer complains that there is no FAT partition for /boot/efi. Problem 1: Why should I need one? The computer is set for bios/mbr use. I push ahead and get the summary page. It lists efi mode for booting, and also that secure boot is turned on. Problem 2: Why is the installer ignoring the BIOS and my setup? I click on Booting, change the manager to GRUB2 (which had worked for me before, even on this coomputer), disable secure boot. The summary then says "Unsupported combination of hardware platform for x86_64 and grub2." Problem 3: What, What?? Ignoring, I am able to install the code. However, on reboot, there is _still_ no menu item to boot the installed system, and the installtion starts over again. Problem 4: Why aren't these items at least showing up now? I reboot the computer. Now I see a menu item for openSUSE that leads me to the system. But there is _No_ entry for Windows. Now, I can not even get into Win-7 ! Problem 5: Why isn't a Windows option automatic, as it has been for a very long time? I clean off sdb and tried to work with a GPT style, such as including a FAT partition for /boot/efi. I encountered messages such as "/ boot partition does not have a GPT disk label." It tells me to destroy the disk label in expert partitioner. But I am already in the expert partitioner, and there are no options to handle labels. I even tried the proposed default GTP setup. I again ended up with Problems 4 and 5. Let me note that, before all of this, I had Win-7 and oS 13.1 running well together on the computer. I don't know how I did that because the 13.1 DVD is now behaving the same way as 13.2. (Before you ask, this statement is true before and after the BIOS update.) There may be ways to work around these problems. But it should not be necessary -- certainluy not for the istall disk which the first contact between the SuSE OS and the public. I recall that the install DVD for a previous release (9.? or 10.?) had to be remastered due to major problems. It may be necessary again. Joe -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org