*sarcasm* I am not telling you to end your life.
2014-06-02 9:14 GMT+02:00 Damian Ivanov
Nothing is over-engineered. It's simple. login was broken. multiseat, logind is must, yes I have such devices. Go shoot yourself and think about systemd.
2014-06-02 9:13 GMT+02:00 Dirk Gently
: Damian Ivanov wrote:
People who actually want (or are paid to) have control of their computers are necessarily horrified by systemd, because it has become a leviathan, and an ill-mannered, ill-tempered one at that.
I am paid Linux support engineer and love systemd.
I am not the one getting over anything? You don't like systemd? ok, everyone on the list got that. It still isn't going away will you spam me until it's going away (like not the next years).
Befor you make another unfounded accusation, why don't you bother learning whta the fuck spam is.
Clue: The definition of spam is NOT: "messages on an email list that Damian Ivanov doesn't like."
Now, stop being a lying asshole, and shut the fuck up.
Don't like my tone? Then don't accuse me of spamming when I'm not.
2014-06-02 8:58 GMT+02:00 Dirk Gently
: Damian Ivanov wrote:
systemd is without alternative?
Hey, Damian, have the past 20 years taught you absolutely NOTHING about the concept of software lock-in, and how that is NOT good for users
great
No, it isn't. See above.
people like systemd.
Naive people like systemd. People who never have to write start-up scripts might like systemd.
People who actually want (or are paid to) have control of their computers are necessarily horrified by systemd, because it has become a leviathan, and an ill-mannered, ill-tempered one at that.
get over it.
How about YOU get over me and the multitudes of others not liking sytemd. Systemd is fundamentally flawed, because it is broken at the design level.
Poettering and Sievert can't explain what systemd is supposed to do in a paragraph or less. Instead, they tell you to read some hundreds of pages of aimless, rambling bullshit.
To any intelligent person, that alone raises all sorts of red flags. I guess you're not one of them.
2014-06-02 8:28 GMT+02:00 Dirk Gently
: Dylan wrote: > > > > On 01/06/14 00:50, Dirk Gently wrote: > > [SNIP: A load of rubbish] > > If you spent as much time and energy doing something *productive* > about > it > (or even in life > generally) your mind might be opened and the world might become a > better > place.
Or perhaps you're so fascinated with "shiny new thing" that you utterly opposed to looking at and evaluating the problems it introduces... because apparently ALL change is "progress" to some people.
If it wasn't worth discussing, I wouldn't waste my fucking time to do so. Get a clue.
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