Doug wrote:
On 06/02/2014 02:33 AM, Damian Ivanov wrote:
systemd is without alternative? great people like systemd. get over it.
2014-06-02 8:28 GMT+02:00 Dirk Gently
: Dylan wrote:
On 01/06/14 00:50, Dirk Gently wrote:
[SNIP: A load of rubbish]
If you spent as much time and energy doing something *productive* about it (or even in life generally) your mind might be opened and the world might become a better place.
Or perhaps you're so fascinated with "shiny new thing" that you utterly opposed to looking at and evaluating the problems it introduces... because apparently ALL change is "progress" to some people.
If it wasn't worth discussing, I wouldn't waste my fucking time to do so. Get a clue.
I think there are devs who monkey with the code just keep doing something, not because there is something that _needs_ to be changed or replaced. Anne Landers said it a long time ago: "If it ain't broke, don't fix it!"
You're spot on, Doug. This is precisely the problem. mount wasn't broken, yet systemd has usurped it. login wasn't broken, yet systemd has usurped it. cron wasn't broken, yet systemd has usurbed it. etc. etc. etc. All in the name of saving a few seconds of boot tgime. Defending Sievert and Poetterings pile of crap is a fool's errand. This is the Linux equivalent of those ridiculous artillery pieces the Germans built to use in Russia -- the ones that needed TWO rail lines just for the gun carraiges, which took WEEKS to assemble in the field, required an entire BATTALION of men (not including the railroad company) to operate a single operating gun, and which required over an HOUR to reload after firing. Was that gun design impressive in its raw capability ? Absolutely. Did it make any positive impact on Germany's war effort? Nope -- those same resources (in terms of steel to produce gun-tubes and ammunition, and artillery men and officers to operate the things in the field) if put into say, standard 150mm artillery pieces, or even 205mm artillery pieces, would have been far more influential. This doesn't even touch the amount of time of engineers and designers which was wasted on this (rather than being put to use in other more productive pursuits), nor the amount of factory space, and tooling required to manufacture these white-elephants in the first place. OVER-FUCKING-ENGINEERED to the point of being far more of a hindrance than a benefit. And that's what systemd is. And yet it still isn't anywhere close to achieving it's original purpose -- reducing boot time (as if that's a major concern... why in the fuck should I care if my boot time is 90 seconds or 75 seconds? I don't sit around rebooting my computer all day, AND NEITHER DOES ANYBODY ELSE!!!!
--doug
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