On Monday, January 02, 2012 05:25:23 PM Stephan Barth wrote:
Hi,
On Sun, Jan 01, 2012 at 08:07:37AM -0500, Anton Aylward wrote:
Rajko M. said the following on 12/31/2011 11:27 AM:
Initial location is: http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Search_the_web
and later if and when content on that page justifies broader approach it can be moved to a new title [1].
The main purpose it to help experienced users recognize what new openSUSE users don't and can't know, and vice versa.
Thanks for that article Rajko. It is very helpful.
Thank you for support Stephan. Having draft as a starting point is improvement to having nothing at all, but article has to be restructured and expanded, which I hope that we can achieve with contributions and feedback. In other words expect changes, a lot of them. Anton's email helped me to think more about the problem. While his own use of "google it" in the recent posts is correct, there is a lot of people, otherwise well aware of new users knowledge, that give that advice without thinking about changes the web is undergoing every day, that accumulated trough the years, and make advice lesser sound then just few years ago.
That page talks about things like google searches being unhelpful and misleading. As if the same couldn't be said about *any* advice HAHAHA. What it doesn't say is that google searches can be incredibly useful in many (?most?) cases ...
Unfortunately I have to disagree. I use Google daily and it gets continuously more difficult to find technical information. Google optimizes a lot towards "normal" words and "corrects" your search and it is a rather new feature that it doesn't tell you.
They actually tell you when they say they optimize their search machinery. They can't go into details for two reasons: - competition (they have to find their own way) - some automatic in the improvement process that depends on changes on the web so even Google must analyze effects.
In the past few months it often showed articles that didn't apply at all to the problem I was looking for or shows me entries from forums or mailings lists that are older than 5 years and at the same time useful information was listed on the second or even third page.
That is my observation too. Search engine optimization (SEO), or in other words methods how to trick search engine, have improved over the years and it often leads to results that have very little to do with query, or are completely off topic. The other mentioned problem, obsolete results first, can be explained with higher popularity of web pages caring that information with accidental match of a query string with some content on the page, like question about same error. Example is that when you ask for "linux" you get 2 pages of results pertaining to Ubunutu, sprinkled modestly with distros. Happy New Year! -- Regards, Rajko -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org