I've sifted through the various 11.4 NetworkManager issues, and didn't find anything like the minor annoyance I'm having. I've got a clean desktop install of 11.4/KDE4 from the 64 bit LiveCD. I've ran all the updates and added a few Community Repos. I've set Networking to use NetworkManager (for a regular wired NIC) - I've done this because I use VPNs, and NetworkManager is a nice easy way to switch VPNs on/off. If the system is set to use ifup, then network is always working on boot. If the system is set to use NetworkManager, then network is not enabled after a boot. If I click on the NetworkManager widget, I have no networking options at all. If I go into the NetworkManager config, I can only access the VPN tab. All other tabs are greyed out. If I go to YaST, Network, and set it back to Traditional ifup, then network comes up immediately. I can then switch it back to NetworkManager, and network stays working, and I've got full access to all features of the NetworkManager until the next logout/reboot when I lose network again until I manually cycle it to Traditional and back to NetworkManager. So.... any thoughts on solving this one? It's a minor inconvenience since I don't restart or logout often, but.... it's something I'd like to resolve if I can. C. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org