On 03/15/2010 07:06 AM, Will Stephenson wrote:
On Monday 15 March 2010 12:43:27 David C. Rankin wrote:
On 03/10/2010 01:51 AM, Will Stephenson wrote:
However, if your sycoca was broken, I'd expect you to be telling me that your K menu wasn't working and that apps weren't finding their plugins.
Will, you were right - my menus are gone....
http://www.3111skyline.com/dl/ss/kde/MenuEmpty.jpg
I rarely use it so I guess I didn't notice until now. so your sycoca idea may be gaining traction. What do I check for it?
As I mentioned before,
1) check that /var/tmp/kdecache-$USER is writeable, not full, and that the file ksyscoca exists and is not empty in that dir
2) run kbuildsycoca --noincremental to recreate ksycoca
Will
Will, I know you are still swamped, but maybe you can think of something in /opt/kde/... to check, or maybe the weird ../kdecache-david/tmp dir (addressed below) could be the problem. All menus (except the custom menu entries I have created) and kcontrol are still blank. I've confirmed that /var/tmp/kdecache-$USER is writable -- and in fact is updated with each kbuildsycoca --noincremental, so those can be eliminated as problems. As I mentioned before, I have an x86_64 box that has the problem with no kcontrol entries and no menu entries while I have another 11.0 i586 box configured identically where everything is OK. I don't know if there is anything in /opt/kde3 I should check, but after pulling my hair out with all gnome mime types disappearing and then trying 'update-mime-database -V /usr/share/mime' to no avail, and then stumbling across the post saying "try it as 'update-mime-database /opt/gnome/share/mime'" after which... viola, all mime function were restored, that got me thinking whether the current kde3 problem might have a similar solution somewhere in /opt/kde3? The solution has got to be simple -- albeit elusive. As for the kbuildsycoca tests: 11:44 alchemy:~> l /var/tmp/kdecache-david/ total 7704 <snip> -rw-r--r-- 1 david dcr 3388997 2010-04-16 04:04 ksycoca <snip> -rw-r--r-- 1 david users 1176 2010-04-16 04:04 ksycocastamp 11:44 alchemy:~> kbuildsycoca --noincremental kbuildsycoca running... 11:45 alchemy:~> l /var/tmp/kdecache-david/ total 7704 <snip> -rw-r--r-- 1 david dcr 3388997 2010-04-16 11:45 ksycoca <snip> -rw-r--r-- 1 david users 1176 2010-04-16 11:45 ksycocastamp 11:46 alchemy:~> kcmshell --list The following modules are available: 11:49 alchemy:~> On the i586 box (zephyr): 11:46 zephyr:~> l /var/tmp/kdecache-david/ total 6140 <snip> -rw-r--r-- 1 david dcr 2777690 2010-04-09 23:46 ksycoca <snip> -rw-r--r-- 1 david users 918 2010-04-09 23:46 ksycocastamp 11:46 zephyr:~> kcmshell --list kbuildsycoca running... The following modules are available: background - Change the background settings colors - Color settings <snip> ## All Good! One big difference between the two boxes is that my x86_64 box has a weird /var/tmp/kdecache-david/tmp directory where there is no similar ../tmp directory on the working i586 box. The contents of the strange tmp directory are: 12:06 alchemy:/var/tmp/kdecache-david> l tmp total 7344 drwxr-xr-x 2 david dcr 4096 2010-03-16 07:36 ./ drwx------ 13 david users 4096 2010-04-16 11:45 ../ -rw-r--r-- 1 david dcr 3359809 2010-03-16 07:36 ksycoca -rw------- 1 david dcr 4130858 2010-03-16 07:36 ksycoca4 -rw-r--r-- 1 david dcr 1156 2010-03-16 07:36 ksycoca4stamp -rw------- 1 david dcr 0 2010-03-16 07:36 ksycoca4T27341.new -rw-r--r-- 1 david dcr 1242 2010-03-16 07:36 ksycocastamp looking at the March 16 date, that would be just about the last time I saw the kontrol panel and menus working and these are the files you were talking about. I don't know what that means, but I thought it might help so I'm passing it along. Let me know if you have any other ideas when you catch your breath. Thanks. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org