On Tue, 2009-09-22 at 10:06 +0200, Clayton wrote:
As a KDE user and advocate, I am very excited about Gnome 3. Linux desktop innovation has stagnated in recent years and KDE 4 seems to be an attempt to do something different, not something better. It is too early to tell if Gnome 3 will be better or merely different, however, another team innovating independantly is always a good thing. I hope that KDE and Gnome learn from each other and incorporate the good ideas of each. Same here.. it's certainly piqued my interest, and I will definitely try it out as soon as the Gnome Factory builds are "ready'. I agree... it would be nice if they (users AND developers) could learn form each other instead of all this bickering... sigh.
I believe most of the bickers is by users, and sometimes I wonder if some of those are even that [do they really *use* the software they are nattering about?]. The developers DO work together and have been for quite some time. That is the entire "freedesktop" thing which has contributed a lot to the Open Source desktop; D-Bus, for example, is a freedesktop thing. Rather than stupid Kparts/ICE or clumsy/slow Bonobo everybody know shares an awesome inter-process IPC solution. And then there is Cairo (which is not a GNOME specific thing), Device Kit, Avahi, Freetype, HAL, Portland, and more. Developers don't have any problems getting along; there may be a bigot here or there but they are the exception not the rule. And this is generally true outside the KDE "vs." GNOME space as well. I work on collaboration stuff [shudder: groupware!] and everyone there gets along too: OpenGroupware, E-Groupware, Citadel, Scalable OpenGroupware, etc... Sniping by *developers* is rare and we even do voluntary interoperability testing with each others kits. "Real" developers understand very well that a rising-tide-lifts-all-boats. If you see developer sniping I'd look closely and see if the snipers are "real developers" [aka. they write code, process bugs, and perform commits] or if they are just wanna-be hangers-on. There are too many of those and far too much tolerance of them. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org