just to add my cent : dependency IS an issue for newcomers. I don't know much about opensuse's philosophy and strategy concerning the every-day user, but there is definitely a barrier. And it does actually make a difference between *ubuntu and suse. see the figures (distrowatch, googletrends). And just for curiosity, IF development and factory repos together are ill-advised (and IF this fact regarded as common sense) , is it too much to expect that the every-day user is warned when he enables both in Yast? By the way, Im using both distros. I prefer suse when it is configured properly. But I realized that solving problems is much easier in ubuntu (e.g. dual screen, wlan, sound issues). Also, I have a few friends turning back to xp after suse. but not after ubuntu. It has nothing to do with free CDs. go and figure. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org