so, if i am willing to put up with the goofy updating process, is there anything else that I can gain if i drop my trusty old 10.3 -32 bit or "racy" 10.3 x86-64 for 11.0 or 11.1? I tried hard to find something great and brand new by myself but I have failed. Itried 11.0 with kde4 for half hour, that was my limit. tried it again with kde3, it seemed ok, nothing new to me, then the news came that kde3 actually sits on top of -4 in 11.0, that killed it for me. please do not take this as just another kde4 bashing thread attempt, i am sure there are thousands of happy users out there, God bless you all! but i am not ready for it yet, so i am trying to find other advances in 11.0 /11.1. there is a lot of talk about partitioning, sound, boot, cd/dvd, printing and other issues, but there is little talk about *nice and new* things. can we please start listing some of them? again, please exclude the kde4 shtuff. thanks, d. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org