On Fri, Dec 26, 2008 at 10:07 PM, Per Inge Oestmoen
But you should care - KDE 4 is and should be the version to be developed in the future. Thus it is important to ensure that it holds high configurability and functionality - and of course is made to be user-friendly. There is no contradictions here - quite the contrary!
The problem is that the vision that the current devs have is different from what the KDE philosophy has been for a long time. I'm not against making things easier to use for new users, but it would seem that a whole slew of things have been "forgotten" about when it comes to KDE4. And, I'm not complaing that the devs decided to incorporate the new "glitz", but adding glitz at the expense of usability, especially for those who need that usability due to disabilites or other reasons, is an issue. I don't ask much in a desktop. I use KDE 3.5.x on this laptop. It has KOffice for when I need a word program(honestly, I find Wordpad in WinDoZe totally usable and much better than Word. I use firefox for browsing, MPlayer for multimedia, KTorrent when needed, and K3B for burning. I don't care much for the 1 click multimedia stuff because MPlayer does everything i need it to do for multimedia. I would remove Xine/Kaffine except for all the dependencies. Further, so far, KDE4 is not faster nor does it use less resources than KDE3, which was the biggest push. You can't use 11.0 or 11.1's KDE3 for comparision because they share too many libs. You'd have to go back to 10.2 or 10.3 to really find out.
Thus, you and others are encouraged to write down bug lists and feature requests.
I have made comments as I have found them. However, I generally post what I find to the lists because I find the bug reporting programs cumbersome. If it's an unknown issue, then I have opened bugs. I would love to be able to do more, but my time is limited right now. Others have said that I should post less and open more bugs, but I guess they haven't noticed that my participation on these lists has dropped off dramitically recently. I've spent all weekend moving and haven't had much time to devote to even checking my email. I'd love to be able to install 11.1 on my Macs, but haven't had time. I wished I would have had more time to beta test, but I didn't. While I am behind openSUSE, I don't have enough time to devote to it right now. As things settle down, I hope to be able to do more. And I will do what I can to add bug reports as I see the need and as I have the time. I'd like to have the time to figure out how to connect my hdtv properly so that I can use it for my movie collection. However, it's an older rear projection and it only supports 480p, 480i, and 1080i. Getting that to work is a higher priority, especially for my son since we haven't had the $$ to go see many movies this year. A 52" HDtv is a big deal to a 12 year old.
I have already noted some reduction in the configurability in the Personal Settings, and the fact that both Konqueror 4 and Dolphin lacks such an important function as the capability of showing meta data for every file. We need to make such lists in order to give proper and constructive feedback to the developers - even though it is important to discuss these matters to draw attention to them, the developers are all the time dependent on input from users.
KDE4 was pushed out before it was even really usable. It still has a lot of holes. So long as KDE3 provides me what I need, I will stay with it. Look at it this way, as bad as WinDoZe is, look how many people are staying with XP and avoiding Vista like the plague. I prefer 2k myself, because it is easier to setup and uses less resources than XP. For all it's flaws, XP has become the most used OS ever. And if we ever want to get people to move away from it, we will need to offer a compelling reason for them to switch. While we may think that things like MySpaceIM are useless, these people don't, so should we work to get it ported? Or Quicktime or AIM, or some other win program. A lot of us dislike Novell's support of mono, because we think .NET is useless, but a lot of WinDoZe users don't, so where do we draw the line? I use Linux because it's stable, secure, and uses less resources than Windows. It's gives me more control over my system than Windows does. And, it gives me real choice. But, I use WinDoZe at work and I am basically as productiive using it as I am with Linux, so, once again, it comes down to a compelling reason. I feel I need a compelling reason to switch to KDE4, which I have yet to find, and WinDoZe users need a compelling reason to switch to Linux. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org