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Re: [opensuse] Another IMPORTANT thing missing in KDE 4.1!
  • From: "Larry Stotler" <larrystotler@xxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2008 13:56:20 -0500
  • Message-id: <9bb996600811111056j3177e08eo3be75ac0db3126e1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 1:08 PM, Sven Burmeister
<sven.burmeister@xxxxxxx> wrote:
Am Dienstag, 11. November 2008 11:14:06 schrieb ne...:
Folks, it would be nice if we could return to technical discussion and
stop the personal attacks. This list is not a right but a privilege. It
would be nice if we not give our hosts cause to rebuke us.

I'd appreciate that very much! And I promise to ignore the trolls next time,
yet please do tell those as well that this is a technical mailinglist for
asking polite questions and not some list to tel the world how crap xy is
because it lacks z, even more so if those claims are wrong.
Sorry to those that are better than me at ignoring trolls!

Hold on. This is hypocritical. You started most of the personal
attacks by posting this:

Sven Burmeister to opensuse
Am Samstag, 8. November 2008 16:37:27 schrieb Fred A. Miller:
There's no way to arrange icons on the taskbar where the user wants
them! This is worse then just an annoyance!
And another perfect example of your inconpetence. Please use Windows.

Since then, this entire thread has degraded until it's not even worth
reading. Nobody said Fred was in the right for the way he submitted
his post. However, it is a valid concern.

What's next, when a Windows user complains that something doesn't work
the way XP or Vista does, we tell him to get lost? That's not what
this community is about. It's here to air our issues and differences
and to help other users. Yes, Fred was incorrect because there IS a
way to do what he complained about, but the "new" way is nowhere near
as easy and usefull as the "old" way.

Some people obviously like the direction that KDE4 has taken. Some
haven't. I'd call for a split, but we don't see to have a community
of people willing to take over KDE3 and continue it. Since, I'm not a
programmer, I can't do it. But if there were those who step up, then
I probably would support them. KDE4 has not delivered IMO(which is an
opinion by the way). It would have been nice if it had, but it
hasn't, as of the last Beta4 LiveCD that I tried. It's closer. But,
I don;t have time right now to list what is different and what needs
to be done. It takes too long to turn off all the eye candy, which is
why I added a request to return kpersonalizer to the startup of KDE so
it's easier to turn off the eye-candy for those of us who don't care
for it and/or don't have the hardware to make it worthwhile.
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