-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 John Andersen wrote:
On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 9:33 PM, Kai Ponte
wrote: there are still many large companies running NetWare 3.12 servers, many with 1000+ days of uptime.
3.12 was a killer version. From there it got weirder and weirder and eventually weirded its way into obscurity. They had to do it to get directory services in because that was the Microsoft selling point, but everything about netware 4.x and later was downhill. I jumped off the train and climbed on the linux bandwagon rather than go to netware 5.
With a big UPS at one of my customer sites, I did have a 3.12 installation run for over two years in spite of power failures. I only took it down to add more disk drives.
Novell marketing is and always was non-existent. They wrote the most dry ads and most leaden prose of any group I have ever seen. Its clear they neither understood their products nor had ever even talked to anyone who did. I always came away from one of their sales brochures with that "whatthefuckdidthatsay" feelings. I never understood any of their product line, or even why I would want to use it. It was like reading ads for left handed widgets written in Korean.
I think the dating is a little confused here. NW4.0->4.10->4.11 pre-dated AD by a fair bit. Had things like a dynamic DS schema and a far more sophisticated DS management tools than AD originally had (basically in its first incarnation it was domain services with a DS look and feel). At some point Novell produced NDS for NT which effectively ripped out the Domain Services part out of NT and gave a lot of M$ execs collective apoplexy (backoffice was then specifically modified to only run if and only M$ networking was enabled which added to to the bloat and the complex fiddling to get Domain Services and later AD to interoperate with NDS). So companies like Novell were shafted by M$ for the M$ world... Linux/UNIX support for NDS (e-Directory) was late and unfortunately IIRC in its originally incarnation involved hacking Red Hat with vi... something that was unlikely to appeal to those from the DOS/PC world... Yes Novell historically have been good at technology and bad at marketing, and the annual Novell technology conferences such as Brainshare were usually for the technically literate not the man with the cheque book.... (Coming back with a luggage full of literature very nearly gave me a hernia on a few occasions....) - -- ============================================================================== I have always wished that my computer would be as easy to use as my telephone. My wish has come true. I no longer know how to use my telephone. Bjarne Stroustrup ============================================================================== -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFH83AiasN0sSnLmgIRAoiKAJ9VGKbwizY5to2psIGYjfBamz9X2gCgoI0j kUOqnGPCf6GFuvYQ+4X6oTU= =JMcb -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org