El lun, 18-02-2008 a las 16:09 +0100, Will Stephenson escribió:
On Sunday 17 February 2008, Hudibras said:
Hi, again, and thank you in advance. This issue wasn't of mine, but dealing with kde4, I'm asking for reasons about it. Yes, I and everybody are running qt 3.91 or rather 4.3.91 so that 4.0.62 can be installed as a requirement. I have said before that kde never did this before, i.e. crashing even in a "stable" version or release.
Whoa, let me stop you there: 4.0.62 and Qt 4.3.91 are not "stable" or released. They are pre-alpha preview packages, and running them is like running with scissors - sooner or later there will be blood.
Yes! I know! I know! And that's the paradox. I said before that even 4.0.62 (tagged as "unstable") is stabler than 4.0.1 (tagged as "stable"). I took a look to unstable hoping what I expected. The weird thing is that 4.0.1 lacks a lot of features; konqueror still crashing with flash-plugin pages; konsole does not save options changed (cursor, font and other things); "kicker" is not viewable at all; plasmoids fail and restart plasma (always without success...) May I follow describing issues? I speak a poor English, but if I would express in my mother tongue, I would be more explicit. So, sorry. That's the reason why I said yesterday I will wait to the D-Day: when all things I do with kde3, gnome, windowmaker, even Enlightenment 0.17!, I can do it with kde4. Cheers, AOP.
What we are experiencing here are the consequences of the evolution of openSUSE. The Build Service makes it very (very, thank you 1-Click Install guys) easy for you to add unstable software to your system. In the old days, to get unstable KDE, you had to know about a directory on ftp.suse.com, download and install the packages by hand, resolve dependency problems yourself, and in doing so, realised that you were taking a risk. That is no longer the case.
Maybe we should write an applet that before you go to bugzilla.novell.com, scans your zypper repo list for any build service repos, and shows a graphic of a geeko in a tutu holding a STOP sign "Are you sure you know what you're running?" to prevent users worrying unnecessarily about the state of unreleased software.
Will -- Desktop Engineer KDE Team
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