-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Aaron Kulkis schreef: | Neither I nor anyone else here has been sniping at the devs. | | I, and I'm sure most everyone else would LOVE for KDE 4 | to be stable and complete enough to absolutely replace | KDE 3 without the slightest hesitation. | | Unfortunately, at the present time, that is not the case, | although it appears that some on the list seem to think | that WISHING for KDE 4 to be solid enough to replace KDE 3 | automatically makes it true. | | | What I've been arguing against is making KDE 4 the default | before it's ready -- because all it will do is give both | SuSE and KDE a bad reputation, especially among those whose | first exposure to Linux is any distribution in which an | immature KDE 4 product is the default KDE desktop. | | If there's been any sniping here, it's been at a few people | whose words reveal that they are, for whatever reason, | emotionally invested in shoving KDE 4 into SuSE 11.0, and | apparently as the default version of KDE, now matter how | many show-stoppers are still present in the code. | | And that is simply irresponsible -- because the people who | get burned the worst by that sort of misguided decision | are those with the least amount of experience with and | knowledge of Linux and its software. | | One thing I've always like about SuSE is that while always | a forward-looking distro, willing to explore new software, | the product has overall been quite reliable. | | All the way up until the 10.1 release and the online update | nightmare. Somebody or group decided to rush immature code | into YaST, and it created a SERIOUS problem. | | There's absolutely NO REASON to repeat the same damned | mistake again...especially since the stitches from the | previous self-inflicted wound have only recently been | removed. | | As a user, not only do I want SuSE to be a good product | for me...I want it to be a good product FOR EVERYONE | who tries it -- not just those of use who have enough | experience to avoid the swamps quick-sand pits. | | Now lest you think I'm an old stick-in-the-mud who | doesn't like change... I quit buying RedHat and switched | to SuSE in the 6.x days for the entirely opposite reason -- | RedHat stopped including newer software in their distros, | and adopted a "one true xyz" attitude for nearly every | class of application -- you either liked the particular | app that they chose, or you would have to go hunt down | and search for alternatives yourself -- in contrast to | earlier releases which included many competing apps which | did similar things, allowing the user to try whatever | apps they want, and decide what they like best (which | is how SuSE still does things today, and which is also | why I LIKE the SuSE distros). | | Understand...making KDE 4 the default KDE desktop won't | hurt *ME*...because I'm informed enough to know what's | going on with KDE. But that's not the point. | | The point is making SuSE a good product for those who | AREN'T fully aware of the KDE 3/4 issue...which would | be all of those people who, for whatever reason, will | be making their first leap at moving from Windows to | SuSE in the coming months. | | This is a crucial time for Linux...and getting a decent | percentage of the market share of desktops is a | now-or-never proposition. I suggest you read this: | http://www.catb.org/~esr/writings/world-domination/world-domination-201.html | | If you want across-the-industry support for Linux, then | this goal cannot be allowed to be inadvertantly ruined by | some emotion-driven release of a flaky desktop manager in | a major distribution which even a decent number of EXPERT | users are noticing basic problems (like konsole crashing!) | | | | Wow, Very involved, very spiritualy guided speech! (clappaclappaclappa etc..;) Restecp, ( to speak with Ali G...) - -- Have a nice day, M9. Now, is the only time that exists. ~ OS: Linux 2.6.22.17-0.1-default x86_64 ~ Huidige gebruiker: monkey9@AMD64x2-sfn1 ~ Systeem: openSUSE 10.3 (x86_64) ~ KDE: 3.5.7 "release 72.6" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHuWNbX5/X5X6LpDgRArrLAJwLO/tXiAqxBwem2PnEDiSxABxGqwCfZ9bI +oUEeHtK7TyGmtid5adxK5o= =hA5X -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org