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Re: [opensuse] openSUSE 11.0 and the Non-ready KDE4
  • From: "M9." <monkey9@xxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 12:25:21 +0100
  • Message-id: <47B576A1.9060902@xxxxxx>
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Aaron Kulkis schreef:
| M9. wrote:
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|> Alexey Eremenko schreef:
|> |> For a project as big as KDE, what code is going to go from Alpha
|> |> to Release quality in less than 2 months. Expecially one which
|> |> is still MISSING vast expanses of functionality?
|> |>
|> |> KDE 4 is not ready for prime time yet, nor will it be ready
|> |> for prime time 8 weeks from now.
|> |>
|> |> This is a complete no-brainer.
|> |
|> | Absolutely Agree !
|> |
|> | The best solution would be allow choice between KDE3/KDE4, just like
|> | there is choise between GNOME/KDE in 10.3.
|> |
|> The choice will be there, don't be afraid...
| But which is going to be the default?
| Something that is mature and debugged, or something
| which is flashy, but incomplete and buggy?

If done correctly, there will be no default, just as KDE and GNOME.

But i also understand the eagerness to get KDE4 somwhere, to be able to
go on.
Much work is allready done, and if it is not on the map, it will not be
I think it is rather dapper, to throw this virgin before the lions...
The team can be so demoralized by masses moving away from deflating
quality and workability, the project will die, and never relive again.

For me, i want to give the team a fair chance to show what they are
capable off.

But as i installed KDE A2 x86_64 CD again yesterday, for the third time,
i had to throw away .kde again, because the replacement for kicker, i do
not know its name, vanished again, not to come back...
The install-source factory could be saved, and i zypped dup.
KDE3 was pulled in.
No deps probs this time, download and install went very smooth.

Sax2 is more broken than ever, and spammed xorg.conf with an endless
list of non-existing resolutions like: "1440x9001440x900", took me ages
to delete all that crap.
Hope it works now, but previous times i did this it did not so hope is
the only thing i've got.

I installed thunderbird, but was not able to set up an account, because
of hundreds of error messages: error you have to set up a real e-mail
adress, that would not go away, forced me to shut down and go to sleep.
As useualy, the grub entrances to my other system, 10.3 were gone, but
this time i saved the menulst, and now i can enter them both again.

KDE4 is at alpha2 state.
Which could mean there's hope also for that...
(the only thing that realy works is: working their buts off to kill the
bugs, and not wait a minute to start killing them.. ;)

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Have a nice day,

M9. Now, is the only time that exists.

~ OS: Linux x86_64
~ Huidige gebruiker: monkey9@AMD64x2-sfn1
~ Systeem: openSUSE 10.3 (x86_64)
~ KDE: 3.5.7 "release 72.6"

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