On 2007/06/22 16:23 (GMT-0400) Patrick Shanahan apparently typed:
* Felix Miata
[06-22-07 15:19]:
OTOH, to me the Smart UI is best described as mystery meat.
You do have to use it and as with most things, it requires a little learning.
In this case, more than a little learning.
I hover over several toolbar icons, and get no tooltips to tell me what they're for.
goodness, I have not even seen the "toolbar icons", etc. Tooltips??
Icons right there between the main menu's File Edit View and Help and the following column headings for Package and Version. Tooltips are the expected result of hovering over a toolbar icon that doesn't have full time accompanying text to describe its reason for existence.
I open it up and it says on the statusbar "No interesting upgrades available!", while providing no apparent way to find out what non-interesting upgrades might be available.
It will only provide upgrades for installed software
Nothing about its UI makes that apparent to me.
and ONLY from repositories that YOU have configured :^)
That I have configured, or that YOU has configured? Have is a verb to be used only with a plural noun. The app YOU is singular noun, an "it". I have configured. YOU has configured. It has configured. You have configured. Grade school grammar. :-p
It has an icon for updating all packages, but none for updating installed packages.
Just how do you update a package that is not installed?
Actually what is says is upgrade. To me that means something more than updating only installed packages - permitting new and previously uninstalled dependant packages to be included with the upgrade of the installed packages. With kernels the version is part of the package name, so a kernel upgrade/update amounts to a new package. You said Smart does not install a newer kernel version by default, which is good. Too bad YaST doesn't understand and implement this concept. :-(
It has no menu item for configuration or preferences. How can normal people use such an un-smart tool?
It is a "smart" tool. But, as with nearly every tool, mechanical and software, a little learning and effort *is* required.
With this one I tried a few times. Little IMO is an understatement here.
READ THE DOCs. It appears from your statements that you have not looked at them.
Exactly. GUI tool basics ought to be 100% intuitive, needing no fumbling to find any docs. I've looked at Smart several times over the past couple years and never found much intuitive about it. Adept is the only similar tool I've found to be less friendly. On the bright side, at least Smart is there as an alternative to the tool SUSE users traditionally expect to just work. -- "Respect everyone." I Peter 2:17 NIV Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org