Well......................except for Hal and
Never had a complaint about Hal. It just works for me. I do not need fixed mount points for automounted devices. I have never had it fail on me.
Stupid.............er.............uh..........I mean Smart.
Well.. Stupid/Smart isn't technically "part" of the default distro. I agree it's an annoying app - SmartGUI that is - compared to more intuitive and informative apps like Synaptic. I've been told by "those in the know" that the SmartGUI is undergoing a major overhaul, and the new interface should be more user friendly and less of an out of touch developer's idea of what is good. Fingers crossed.
and don't forget that stupid dog thingy.
Not installed... so no problem. :-) It does work in 10.2 though (in mine at least). I did have it running for a while, and when I did use it, it worked. I don't need it... I know where all my personal files are, so removed it as a redundant app
AND, can someone explain in SIMPLE English just what the h-e-double hockey sticks Aparmor is supposed to do. Near as I can tell all it does is take up space on my hard drive.
Curtis Rey had a good comment on AppArmor a few months ago (3 January): "If you're running AppArmor - Don't! It can interfere with apps and /dev access - it's designed for Enterprise/network servers with access to the outside world - generally overkill for home users and non-servers."
As for the Zen thing. Well, I find it quite useful, as long as you don't install the "updater" portion. If you don't install Zen Updater openSuSE Updater gets installed by default.
I noticed the openSUSE updater thing when I hunted down and killed Zen. I also stopped the openSUSE updater. I use Smart on a regular basis and my apps are all on the rather gory bleeding edge. So... 10.2 and problems... I see mainly Zen, Beagle/Kerry and AppArmor that people complain about as simply not working or causing untold levels of havoc on their installs. None of these 3 are critical, and can simply be removed without really being missed. Some don't like Hal for various reasons, but it seems to be rare that it's actually Hal that's broken.... more like personal choice where the user doesn't like how Hal handles mount points. Dunno... still seems to me that 10.2 is a pretty dang good release (after the post release patches are applied) :-) The core of it works very well. Like all software, it will never be perfect... but, as long as future releases work as good as or better than 10.2 I'm a happy camper. I have recommended 10.2 to a whole lot of people... first time users.. and they are getting on very well with it. C. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org