On Mon, May 15, 2006 at 12:39:46AM +0200, Eberhard Moenkeberg wrote:
The silent death of the admin guide was a bad decision in my mind too.
Up to 9.3, I could advise interested people "just buy one SUSE box, and you have all you need to become a server admin - experiences with docs".
I did the same. Now I say: just download it or ask somebody for a copy. I would expect two versions of SUSE. One boxed with the manuals in dead trees and one (e.g only over Internet order) with just the CD, like http://dvd-iso.de/product_info.php/products_id/69/product/suse-linux-10.1-dv... or http://tinyurl.com/pjttk
Also for 10.0, a sources DVD iso was provided on the mirrors, which for those of us with broadband didn't complain. Many don't have the bandwidth to download a large iso.
Many? You are kidding. Most of those "manies" at least have a friend with a DSL connection.
Also how many of the many actually use ALL of those sources? That said, some people need the kernel sources. I think those could be included in the box. Not sure if there is enough plave on the DVD-9. <snip>
The sources are already published at the servers:
/pub/opensuse/distribution/SL-10.1/inst-source/suse/src/ /pub/opensuse/distribution/SL-10.1/non-oss-inst-source/suse/src/
makesusedvd can be used to make an ISO out of it. Please nobody tell me he needs the sources but is not able to run makesusedvd.
Never tried it, so no idea what the result will be.
Putting the sources a second time there as an ISO image would neglect the mirror admins' interest in efficiency (space and cache).
How about a jigdo file?
It is a totally different question if SUSE would ship hard media on request or not. I fully accept their "cost calculation" decision not to put a mostly never used sources disk into the box, and you should ask them for a hard copy if you can't use the servers. I bet they will ship one, and the SUSE cost calculators will include the needed manpower into their next revision. But I bet it already was the right decision. ;-))
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