-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Per Jessen wrote:
Pascal Bleser wrote:
What software to use (phpBB/vBulletin/... ...), whether we want an NNTP gateway or not, whether it's feasible, how, etc... will be discussed *later*.
I'm not discussing software, I'm discussing functionality. Software is utterly irrelevant until the functionality is decided. Functionality, then software, then naming standards. With perhaps the odd iteration.
We're not even to the point where we discuss functionality. That would be the next step.
I'm perfectly willing to volunteer my time and resources (within reason), but I suspect any real action/decision will have to come from Novell though. Wrong, the decision is up to Novell/SUSE _and us_, which is why it is being discussed here and now.
Um, of course everyone here has the right to voice their opinion(s), but as far as partaking in the _decision_ process, I don't see how it works. (and I don't mind either - I'm prefectly content with being heard.)
It's quite simple actually. Sonja asked what we want. We're discussing to find an agreement on what we want. We tell Sonja. Depending on the workload it puts on SUSE staffers we see whether we from the community can do it (or parts thereof). If not, then SUSE might refuse. But if the workload is ok and the SUSE folks don't have a big showstopping argument against our decision, it will be done.
I disagree slightly. The answer is YES, but ONLY given that such a webforum is merely an additional interface to already existing fora. I strongly object to any officially sanctioned webforum with no mailinglist/nntp interface. Well, ok, that's your opinion. I, for myself, don't give a **** about it if it sticks us into an endless discussion.
Then I respectfully submit that you haven't understood the issue. Besides, has anyone actively argued against my and others' proposal of a bi/tri-gated solution? Are you against it?
No, I'm absolutely not against it, but I think that a) adding NNTP "gatewaying" into the discussion thread is hijacking and we should first decide whether we want to elect existing forums or put up a new one b) we'll still be discussing the NNTP gateway thing in 3 months as obviously there isn't a simple solution to it (do you know some shrink-wrapped software that already does it ?) c) it seems it's not easy to achieve, technically and if we sacrifice this thread to discussing how to do NNTP+mailing-list gatewaying with the web forum, then we'll never get anywhere
So, basically, you are in favor of setting up new web forums, hosted by Novell/SUSE ?
Provided they are merely interfaces to e.g. a mailinglist and/or newsgroup, yes, I'm in favour. As long as they're not separate communities, I've always been in favour.
Is there already software that does it ?
Is it tested, stable, secure ?
If not then drop that topic for now, we'll pick it up later, we can't wait 6 months for someone to
develop it and I definitely wouldn't want Novell's openSUSE staff to be busy with doing that because
there are other much more important things to do (build service, doc server).
cheers
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-o) Pascal Bleser http://linux01.gwdg.de/~pbleser/
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