Begin Rant: I'm pissed about this hard to configure, not very special, pain in the ass Alsa sound for Linux that you guys at suse have pushed on us. I'm not even interested in asking for help to fix this piece of crap, I just want to rant and get it out of my system. Combining this Alsa thing with the wonderful crashing version of Netscape and your upgrades of KDE that break existing configurations of XF86 and cause users to have to reinstall; wonderful. I would advise you guys to figure out how to make this "new and better" ideas you come up with install and run before you include it in your distribution. OSS ran well, was easy to install but someone had a "better Idea". There are so many things in Linux that are so way behind Mickeysoft and need to be fixed why are you guys fooling around with something that works? If you really feel that the world cannot survive without a new and improved version of something, at least take the time to make the damn thing install and run without the user having to spend two hours configuring it. A pox on this system End of Rant: Rusty -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/support/faq