Begin Rant: I'm pissed about this hard to configure, not very special, pain in the ass Alsa sound for Linux that you guys at suse have pushed on us. I'm not even interested in asking for help to fix this piece of crap, I just want to rant and get it out of my system. Combining this Alsa thing with the wonderful crashing version of Netscape and your upgrades of KDE that break existing configurations of XF86 and cause users to have to reinstall; wonderful. I would advise you guys to figure out how to make this "new and better" ideas you come up with install and run before you include it in your distribution. OSS ran well, was easy to install but someone had a "better Idea". There are so many things in Linux that are so way behind Mickeysoft and need to be fixed why are you guys fooling around with something that works? If you really feel that the world cannot survive without a new and improved version of something, at least take the time to make the damn thing install and run without the user having to spend two hours configuring it. A pox on this system End of Rant: Rusty -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/support/faq
Rusty wrote:
Begin Rant:
I'm pissed about this hard to configure, not very special, pain in the ass Alsa sound for Linux that you guys at suse have pushed on us. I'm not even interested in asking for help to fix this piece of crap, I just want to rant and get it out of my system.
Combining this Alsa thing with the wonderful crashing version of Netscape and your upgrades of KDE that break existing configurations of XF86 and cause users to have to reinstall; wonderful.
I would advise you guys to figure out how to make this "new and better" ideas you come up with install and run before you include it in your distribution.
OSS ran well, was easy to install but someone had a "better Idea". There are so many things in Linux that are so way behind Mickeysoft and need to be fixed why are you guys fooling around with something that works? If you really feel that the world cannot survive without a new and improved version of something, at least take the time to make the damn thing install and run without the user having to spend two hours configuring it. A pox on this system
End of Rant:
Rusty
Sorry Rusty, but my system works like a charm straight out of the box
with 6.4!
I have updated the netscape package. Shit happens.
I don't use KDE, so that has never been a problem.
I ran alsaconf from day 1
Remember, as much as we would all like it not to be, Linux is STILL a
development system. It is not 100% perfect, and due to the open source
model, possibly never will be! :-)
I demand high availability in my software systems - Linux (SuSE in
particular) delivers. I demand stability, Linux delivers. I don't mind a
small lack of applications, as long as I can do my job without
hinderance. Linux delivers. I constantly argue with the other teachers
at work that they can do what they need to, without spending a small
fortune on software. SuSE Linux distribution delivers. What more do I
want? Nada!
Your Mileage May Vary.
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Hi all, I *think* i have just found the cause of the problem ......is it true that when i specify a Virtualhost in apache 1.3 config .. The Main server must also be specified as a Virtual Host ? Section 2 of httpd.conf has a number of 'common' directives.. so i need to find a way to keep the common areas outside of the VirtualHost directive :) I have WebMin installed on this machine.. how can i configure the Mainserver as a Virtual Host without messing things up ? PS i handle the network, because my partners are too cheap to hire a Full Time Linux Admin ;-) so please be patient with me ..!! Regards Anurag -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/support/faq
Hi all,
I *think* i have just found the cause of the problem ......is it true that when i specify a Virtualhost in apache 1.3 config .. The Main server must also be specified as a Virtual Host ?
Nope. You will need an IP address for each server though. The first one can be a "real" ip, the second one can be a fake one. To bring a second ip up on an ethernet card the command is something like this (doing from memory, syntanx maybe incorrect, check the man page) ifconfig eth0:2 192.168.17.231 up
Section 2 of httpd.conf has a number of 'common' directives.. so i need to find a way to keep the common areas outside of the VirtualHost directive :)
Like? Most things you can "redefine" INSIDE the VirtualHost directive, for example, if you want a differant /cgi-bin then the "common" do something like this ScriptAlias /cgi-bin/ "/home/mywebsite/cgi-bin/" Or if you want to output to differant log files: ErrorLog /usr/local/etc/httpd/logs/www.mywebsite-error_log TransferLog /usr/local/etc/httpd/logs/www.mywebsite.com-access_log You can "redefine" a lot INSIDE of the VirtualHost directive, if you aren't sure on something try it, it will probably work or post it here.
I have WebMin installed on this machine.. how can i configure the
Mainserver
as a Virtual Host without messing things up ?
What is WebMin? Never heard of it. Anyways, you shouldn't have to configure the Mainserver as a VirtualHost, there isn't any point to it, leave it as is and add the second host as a Virtualhost.
PS i handle the network, because my partners are too cheap to hire a Full Time Linux Admin ;-) so please be patient with me ..!!
What is your bussiness?
Regards
Anurag
Try this as a simple setup
ifconfig eth0:2 192.168.17.231 up
add DNS entries so www.mywebsite.com and mywebsite.com both point to
192.168.17.231
after DNS is working (check with nslookup) in httpd.conf do something like
this:
On Fri, 18 Aug 2000, Don Hansford wrote:
Rusty wrote:
Begin Rant:
I'm pissed about this hard to configure, not very special, pain in the ass Alsa sound for Linux that you guys at suse have pushed on us. I'm not even interested in asking for help to fix this piece of crap, I just want to rant and get it out of my system.
Combining this Alsa thing with the wonderful crashing version of Netscape and your upgrades of KDE that break existing configurations of XF86 and cause users to have to reinstall; wonderful.
I would advise you guys to figure out how to make this "new and better" ideas you come up with install and run before you include it in your distribution.
OSS ran well, was easy to install but someone had a "better Idea". There are so many things in Linux that are so way behind Mickeysoft and need to be fixed why are you guys fooling around with something that works? If you really feel that the world cannot survive without a new and improved version of something, at least take the time to make the damn thing install and run without the user having to spend two hours configuring it. A pox on this system
End of Rant:
Rusty
Sorry Rusty, but my system works like a charm straight out of the box with 6.4! I have updated the netscape package. Shit happens. I don't use KDE, so that has never been a problem. I ran alsaconf from day 1 Remember, as much as we would all like it not to be, Linux is STILL a development system. It is not 100% perfect, and due to the open source model, possibly never will be! :-)
So it's ok for SuSE to be buggy? Why bother switching from Windows if one has less apps and a buggier, harder to setup system? It's attitudes like these that will prevent Linux from making it to the general user's desktop. The bugginess issue on 6.4 is starting to push me towards Debian or FreeBSD. Greg -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/support/faq
On Sat, Aug 19, 2000 at 10:27:34AM -0700, Greg Thomas wrote:
The bugginess issue on 6.4 is starting to push me towards Debian or FreeBSD.
FreeBSD has its share of bugs too. Any OS will for that matter. Victor -- "Let's get it straight: copyright infringement is not piracy. No one wears eye patches and cries 'Aargh!' as they download the latest Britney Spears..." -------------------------------------------------- As posted on Slashdot by Gilroy, August 8, 2000 -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/support/faq
On Sat, 19 Aug 2000, Victor R. Cardona wrote:
On Sat, Aug 19, 2000 at 10:27:34AM -0700, Greg Thomas wrote:
The bugginess issue on 6.4 is starting to push me towards Debian or FreeBSD.
FreeBSD has its share of bugs too. Any OS will for that matter.
The two BSDs that I'm familiar with, FreeBSD and OpenBSD, are very stable right out of the box. They have NEVER had the types of problems that SuSE 6.4 had and I'll bet the stable releases of Debian haven't either. That's why my server OS is OpenBSD, http://www.2fortheroad.net, and I'm considering switching my desktop OS. Greg -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/support/faq
The two BSDs that I'm familiar with, FreeBSD and OpenBSD, are very stable right out of the box.
So is SuSE
They have NEVER had the types of problems that SuSE 6.4 had and I'll bet the stable releases of Debian haven't either.
What problems are these, specifically? We can't help without some info to work on.
That's why my server OS is OpenBSD, http://www.2fortheroad.net,
Good choice!
and I'm considering switching my desktop OS.
None of the *BSDs were designed to be primarily desktop os's. But if
you're happy with that, go ahead.
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Greg Thomas wrote:
So it's ok for SuSE to be buggy? Why bother switching from Windows if one has less apps and a buggier, harder to setup system? It's attitudes like these that will prevent Linux from making it to the general user's desktop.
The bugginess issue on 6.4 is starting to push me towards Debian or FreeBSD.
Greg
Sorry, mate, but you're going to find bugs in Debian and FreeBSD too.
And if you think some of the setup routines are bad in SuSE, wait till
you try FreeBSD. I used to use FreeBSD myself, and still think it is a
brilliant system, but easy to setup - no way!
The biggest hurdle I found in switching to Unix was in overcoming the
"Windows" mindset - where everything is done for you (whether you like
it or not!), and finding out what a great sense of achievement you can
get from working with a 'real' operating system. That and the amazing
sense of community there is in the Unix world (like this list for
example).
As for the 'less apps' bit, show me a distro of Windows that comes with
over 1500 apps and utilities, included with the operating system.
If you are after a particular application, do a search at freshmeat.net
- you may be surprised what's out there!
:-)
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