There has been a lot of harsh opinions expressed on this topic. To those that like to be informative with statements like 'It is obvious you don't know anything about html', please, do not feel compelled to reply to messages. HTML has it's limitations; it is only a text markup language and a subset of SGML. That is a fault of the standards and will be amended in time. However, HTML can be pushed to make very visually appealing cross platform site (if you do not know think there are any _really cool sites_, please search slashdot.org for 'site design' and 'sites under 5k'). So why not push the boundaries and create sites with excellent content; layout; format and interactivity? I agree that such a site would not be visible in some browsers (lynx; emacs w3 etc.) so what? It would be arrogant to assume that any site would appeal to all audiences. What if I am authoring a site about the finer aspects of graphic design? It caters to a different audience! A mac enthusiasts web site does not have to be visible in a cell phone browser. A gnome support web site does not have to be visible in Internet Explorer! On the questions of web safe colors: It takes humility to say I am a coder, a computer geek, not a graphic artist what are the rules for color visibility? For those that reply 'get a friend to look at it' or 'if you can't tell colors maybe you should not use them'; it's about colors being dithered and substituted accross platforms and rendering pages unreadable. FYI: Dreamweaver only lets you chose colors from a default pallet of ~200 colors that are guaranteed to look similar accross platforms and browsers. If you want a different color you have to *specifically* choose it from a different pallet. Also, it makes sense to write an html page by hand; not an entire site! Like somebody on this list previously stated, linux is free only if your time is worth nothing! Dreamweaver comes bundled with excellent site management tools. Try adding an extra navigation button to 50 pages in vi! I like vi as much as the next guy but I would rather design my web pages in Dreamweaver and do my java coding in emacs-jde-mode. It's all about choice and using the best tool for the job! I apologize if I have offended anybody; my aim is only to express my opinion; I have known to be wrong before. regards, Adi Gadwale. On Fri, 9 Jun 2000, Don Hansford wrote:
Cees van de Griend wrote:
You're right offcoure. I spoke in haste.
I should probably apologize to the original writer for the tone of my message.
This is a sensitive matter for me. At my work I'm trying to educate my co-workers on this subject.
I think you (and the others) made some very valid points.
HTML is not a graphical design agent. It is what its' name suggests, a HyperText Mark-up Language - it is designed to control the layout of text elements on a page.
The ONLY way to learn to use ANY language, is to start with the basics, in this case, a ASCII or text editor. Learn the hard(er) way before you start taking shortcuts. Then you will be able to circumvent the limitations of the shortcut methods. As for backgrond colours, I prefer (if black on white is not suitable) to use a very pale background, and black text. If in doubt, get someone who is a) not on drugs, b) not a self-styled "graphic artist", c) has no knowledge whatsoever of "the web" and get them to look at your page. If they don't like it, don't use it! --
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