Remy,
2009/12/15 Rémy Marquis
Some feedback/suggestions:
1. Do we need "general help" in the knowledge bar? I.e. what should be linked there in particular? Wouldn't it be better to leave this apart and put "related articles" there (currently on the very bottom)? That'd be even more useful unless someone explains the actual need of "general help".
I agree. Originally, I put direct links to general help here because I didn't know what to put to "fil the gap" :)
I see.
Let's move the "See also" section here instead (shall we rename it "Related articles" ?)
Yes, sounds more reasonable than "See also"
2. Not sure how difficult that'd be but I'd appreciate to have a second article-template with a vertical right-aligned table of contents instead of the horizontal one we currently have. I assume this is a matter of minutes for wiki seniors :-) Is it? Not sure, but I THINK this may look even better. May you come up with a second one to compare please?
Well, I got mixed feeling about the results I obtained.
Looking at the pages that actually use TOCright ( http://en.opensuse.org/Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:TOCright ) and playing with the page I newly created ( http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Article_Template2 ), we can observe lot of inconsistency depending on the content of the page. Sometime the TOC integrate well into the page, sometimes it pulls down all the text leaving a large blank space (specially when we use a wide Template such as Info or Warning).. I think it's also not easy to correct it everywhere, because even though we can modify all templates, the effects of the TOC depend on the length of the TOC (length of article) and the length of the headings and section title.
For the moment, I would go using the horizontal TOC to give a more consistent, professional aspect to the wiki.
Aligned. If it's too difficult to achieve I second this. I can't estimate it anyway (honest person I am) and thus I go along with your decision. Thanks for trying it though!
AI#5 : Wiki Guidelines --------------------------- I've cleaned, merged the bunch of articles that were talking about Guidelines. The new "Wiki Guidelines" can be accessed here : http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Wiki_Guidelines
That's a good start. That said, we absolutely cannot put this (...) online and publicly available. This has to be formulated way more diplomatic :-)
"Put online in August 2005, the openSUSE wiki has proved to be an invaluable documentation resource for users as well as contributors and developers. However, the number of page exponentially increased over the years and this uncontrolled growth came at the expense of the overall quality of the openSUSE wiki, with articles only partially written or duplicating others."
Hopefully, you don't know what was my initial thought when I wrote this sentence ;)
Actually I can't wait to finally know it ;-)
Any help to give more neutrality to this paragraph is welcomed.
I wrote something accordingly in my initial concept proposal -- Currently we have no QA and publishing processes for wiki articles. This makes it very hard to assure a consistent quality across all articles. In the past several approaches were made to clean up and scan the wiki in order to sort and merge articles, to assure a consistent quality, to merge duplicates, introduce meaningful categories etc. However, we are still not where we want to be. -- A slight variation of that (in past tense) would work out imho. It's all about the tone and language of the text .. the message actually is the very same :-)
Also, please think about where we can explain the QA process in detail most appropriately, i.e. the FlaggedRevs/Wiki-Forum reviewing/approving process. I'll provide the actual explanation once AI #3 finally is ironed out.
I guess we can use http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Wiki_Guidelines for the QA process explanation, or even a new separate page, depending on the length and complexity of the explanation.
+1, due to the complexity of the QA topic I'd suggest a new seperate page cited at http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Wiki_Guidelines, i.e. a very rough explanation there and a deeper one on a seperate page. Best, R
Regards,
R.
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